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Admiral McRaven to American people: “You need to shut up (except for me, of course)."
Bravo Blue ^ | 7 June 2024 | John Lucas

Posted on 06/07/2024 6:20:19 AM PDT by Rummyfan

Wednesday morning. His comments were wrapped in platitudes but cut against the American people’s right to freedom of speech. He could not be more wrong.

McRaven claims that those who criticize government institutions “undermine America.” "Undermining America” is a serious charge. And when it comes from a four-star admiral who commanded the entire United States Special Operations Command, you can bet that it carries some clout among those who are wielding power. For these reasons, McRaven’s comments merit close scrutiny.

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McRaven began, not by answering the question, but instead by making sure that his political views got out there. His non-response to Doocy’s question was, “I am not a fan of President Trump. I think the jurors got it exactly right. And I hope he’s not re-elected.”

He then continued, “But that was not the point of the op-ed. The point of the op-ed is, you know, can we rise above all of the rhetoric that’s going on right now. And I tell folks look, can you lay down your rhetorical arms? Can we find a way to bridge the gap? And maybe its naïve on my part but what I see is every time Donald Trump does something wrong, then the left gloats about it, the right rants about it and it just begins to escalate. And we’ve got to find a way to deescalate this because the world is watching.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: acravenpos; billycraven; billyisapos; blogpip; coupaccomplice; courtmartialmcraven; craven; mcraven; sedition; stfu; stfubilly; williammcraven
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To: Rummyfan

What does William McRaven do now?
He currently serves on the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)


21 posted on 06/07/2024 6:45:11 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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To: Rummyfan

McRaven is a cowardly panty waste.


22 posted on 06/07/2024 6:46:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: Rummyfan

Another candidate to have security clearance canceled by Trump. Let him go find another line of work.


23 posted on 06/07/2024 6:46:37 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Build the Wall, Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone.)
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To: Rummyfan

When a man in his position is so obviously disloyal to a sitting President and makes himself useful to the Left, he is usually hiding and obfuscating a personal crime or unethical behavior. the rational being that the best defense is a good offense. Imagine there are some whistleblowers out there who with a bit of encouragement would come forward and give a Trump DOJ evidence to hold this guy accountable.


24 posted on 06/07/2024 6:46:56 AM PDT by allendale
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Another big mouth flag officer (we have ten times the number we had in WW2 with massively higher enlisted personnel) from a military that hasn’t won a major war in eighty years.


25 posted on 06/07/2024 6:47:40 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Rummyfan

We could afford to be gracious toward the Germans, Italians & Japanese, only because we had DEFEATED them first.

The corruption of our justice system is a true threat to our constitutional republic. There are countless examples of people being prosecuted and jailed for their political beliefs.


26 posted on 06/07/2024 6:47:41 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
Admiral McRaven doesn't like corrupt government organizations being criticized?

And his solution is to threaten us rather than help clean up the scum running things - and work to earn our respect?

And this fool wonders why the military can't get recruits? Eff him. Let him get his recruits from drug addicted whore mongers, children of 'the elites' and the sexual weirdo community.


27 posted on 06/07/2024 6:52:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (WOKE DEI hires are an easy way to work hard core commies and sexual weirdos into top corporate spots)
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To: Rummyfan

Like I told Eric Holder in a letter in 2011, “Had I known what this once great Nation would become between you and Obama, I would not have spent 38 years of my life defending her. I would have moved out the United States, rather than live in a two tier justice system, where a homosexual agenda was destroying Christanity....


28 posted on 06/07/2024 6:54:12 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Rummyfan

Raving McRaven.

Worthless POS who should have been court-martialed years ago.


29 posted on 06/07/2024 6:54:43 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Disband and Defund the putrid FBI. America does not need an out of control Gestapo)
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To: smokingfrog

> We could afford to be gracious toward the Germans, Italians & Japanese, only because we had DEFEATED them first. <

Well said. And it goes to the mistake George W. Bush made. After 9/11, he was gracious to radical Islam before we defeated them. It can be argued that Bush didn’t even really try to defeat them.

That was a terrible mistake, and perhaps a fatal one. Radical Islam is now on the march everywhere.


30 posted on 06/07/2024 6:56:46 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Rummyfan

Another Milley.


31 posted on 06/07/2024 7:07:16 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: budj

Admiral McRaven, I really don’t GAF how many stars you had. I double dog dare you to say your ignorant comment to my face. As far as I’m concerned BOTH you and ret. Admiral Kirby are loud mouth fudge packing incompetent traitors.

You BOTH should be called back to active duty, and court martialed. So Admiral McRaven which Defense contractor’s ass are you sucking on???


32 posted on 06/07/2024 7:07:55 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
McRaven is a perfect example of why you do not place military people especially SpecOps types on a pedestal. Some are amazing people who gave everything including their mental and physical health for their comrades and this country. Other like McRaven are nothing more a political POS.

Never, never look to a General or any Flag Officer for life advice or political advice. The kissed so much RAT ass to get promoted they use Preparation H instead of chapstick. Don't look at their awards, early on as junior officers, awards are genuine but as they rose in prominence the awards were gimmes for finishing a tour. The higher they rose the more fancy ribbons and badges they got.

I knew Flag Officers that were amazing men, but they retired and moved on with their lives. When I see one of them at the Commissary or Exchange I stop say hello and ask about their retirement. They behave like most retirees, we share a sea story or talk about our kids or a friend we know. Unless you knew they wore a Star you would not guess their rank. But the vast majority of Flags are political hacks and just as inept as the 50 Intel Chiefs who claimed Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation.

Good news, the DOD has fallen so far in terms of public perception and respect that the current generation would only know pricks like McRaven if they appeared on a video game. The people that once lionized these men, you know the white, Christian, conservative, male, nolonger give two $hits what McRaven thinks. He is why the DOD is where it is at today.

33 posted on 06/07/2024 7:07:57 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me. )
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Mcraven must not have heard the idiom, “Don’t bite off more than you can chew.”


34 posted on 06/07/2024 7:08:37 AM PDT by curious7
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To: budj; All

McRaven is highly despised by the Navy SEALs he once commanded (getting there by weaseling his way up a ladder, which did not include ANY SEAL operations in which he participated. Never fought in a TEAM. A desk jockey full of himself).


35 posted on 06/07/2024 7:08:50 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: Rummyfan

Odd that we do not ever hear from obama-fired Stanley McChrystal who was critical of the present kenyan-hawaiian- indonesian muslim/Marxist— in an interview with Rolling Stone. He was dead on correct about obama- and he got fired for literally small criticisms quoted in Rolling Stone as “hearsay” not direct recorded comments.

THAT is what a totalitarian Marxist apparat did and is still doing through his minions within govt. obi is scared and it’s because he is guilty and knows it. Numbered days.

McRaven was and is a toady. FULL of himself. Reknowned for nothing in SpecOps.

Note also obama fired a Navy Admiral who revealed the gift of a home/mansion in Qatar. Qatar- Iran’s escrow account holder. Admiral was pfffft! just like that. Because it was true!


36 posted on 06/07/2024 7:14:02 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: Rummyfan
There are countries that do not tolerate speech critical of the government and its institutions. There are countries where citizens who publicly disagree with the actions of the government and its institutions are condemned as disloyal citizens, investigated and tried. There are countries where people with political views that differ from those of the governing authorities are subject to governmental abuse and ruin just because of their political opinions. We have a name for these countries. They are totalitarian.

Disloyalty is most easily found online. NYT reports "Battling far-right extremism, Germany has gone further than any other Western democracy to prosecute individuals for what they say online, testing the limits of free speech on the internet."

The AP reports "AI could supercharge disinformation and disrupt EU elections, experts warn."

UNESCO publishes a handbook "Journalism, fake news & disinformation: handbook for journalism education and training."

And in the Netherlands Minister of Defense Kasja Ollongren cites Hannah Arendt to say that disinformation is a telltale sign of totalitarian society. Ollongren is also directly involved as Minister of the Interior and the Dutch Secret Service which finds extremism in the form of anti-institutional opinions that undermine the democratic rule of law. One form of extremism noted is the criticism any governmental actions as malicious.

https://www.aivd.nl/onderwerpen/extremisme/documenten/publicaties/2023/05/25/anti-institutioneel-extremisme-in-nederland-een-ernstige-dreiging-voor-de-democratische-rechtsorde

37 posted on 06/07/2024 7:22:16 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: OldGoatCPO

Thanks Chief! You nailed it.


38 posted on 06/07/2024 7:28:32 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When did WE decide to make America a UN 5-Star Asylum Paradise for Socialist losers?)
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To: Rummyfan

These are the idiots that are responsible for destroying our military, which weakens this nation. He treats these enemies from within as nothing more than patriotic Americans that just hold opposing views than the right wing terrorists the government labels us, have.


39 posted on 06/07/2024 7:39:01 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Rummyfan

FTG...


40 posted on 06/07/2024 7:45:50 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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