Posted on 06/01/2024 9:38:03 PM PDT by joesbucks
In its statement, Salem said, In publishing the film and the book, we relied on representations made to us by Dinesh D’Souza and True the Vote, Inc. that the individuals depicted in the videos provided to us by TTV, including Mr. Andrews, illegally deposited ballots. We have learned that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has cleared Mr. Andrews of illegal voting activity in connection with the event depicted in 2000 Mules.
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No. That you have an opinion formed without knowing the specifics of the case is the more likely reason.
And besides, we have many here who say Salem Media is “controlled opposition” and therefore, not conservative. Right here on this thread, if I am not mistake.
I can’t speak to that.
But what I can speak to is that hundreds of cases (or more) are resolved at all levels of the judicial system by companies, hospitals, and other entities every day, even with public apologies, because it was in their best interests as a company to do so and get it behind them, not because they did or did not do anything wrong.
And that is likely what happened here.
It is lawfare. Lawfare.
LAWFARE.
That is why Protect Democracy is involved. It is an arm of the Democrat Party. Do not doubt me on this.
What are you talking about?!?
Those ARE the specifics of the case! That’s precisely why Salem isn’t standing behind him anymore: because the only person who “proves” that there were 2000 Mules wasn’t actually a “mule.”
Alright. So we disagree.
I don’t know you well enough to say one way or another via your posting history what side you fall on, so you may be justified if you feel you have been unfairly categorized.
I read your profile, and if you thought Romney was a bad candidate, you can’t be fully on the “other side”, although to be fair, THEY thought he was a bad candidate too, which is probably why he got the nomination.
Apparently Krystail of all people, didn't realize that the neighborhood had gone to the dogs.
No. It is POSSIBLE that ONE instance, out of many shown, was not a “mule”.
ONE, cherry picked instance by Protect Democracy, to file the lawsuit.
Personally, I don’t believe he was not a mule. I believe he was and got relatives to vouch for him.
You do know they were not supposed to stuff scads of votes in a single box, right?
Because that would attract attention, right?
They were supposed to stuff them in tranches of small numbers spread out between boxes, right?
Which is why they called them mules, right?
Seriously, I don’t know what is more egregious, for people to call an organization like True The Vote or a pundit like Dinesh D’Souza wind-sniffing grifters because they assume that is their sole motivation by catering to some conspiracy theory group as the Left calls those who are concerned about Election Fraud or those who see this ONE case put forth by Protect Democracy and decide the entire documentary and premise are frauds based on that.
The only reason I still have discourse with you is because you are new here, and your posting history is not a mature one. The others, I am well convinced of what they are all about.
And we know this person is telling the truth exactly how?
Besides the fact that he was deposed and gave sworn testimony to the fact under penalty of perjury?
Well what does Dinesh have to prove that the guy dropped off fraudulent ballots?
Salem retracted their support because of the legal challenges. If you were D’Souza or True the Vote and you had promised people anonymity, you wouldn’t be willing to give up their names to Georgia officials who you suspected wouldn’t seriously investigate the allegations and might put pressure on your sources to recant. D’Souza and TTV didn’t produce names — their evidence was cellphone data and video — but this was reported as saying that they didn’t have any evidence and admitted that they didn’t have any, which isn’t the same thing.
Large-scale voter fraud is difficult to prove in a court of law — maybe without actual multiple confessions — but as I understand it, the film made a plausible case for what could have happened and was happening. There are plenty of big media “debunkings” of the film that crowd out dissenting opinions on any web search, but those “debunkings” don’t deal honestly with the issues and allegations raised in the film.
Here’s a partial debunking of the “debunkers”:
https://patriotpost.us/articles/88530-fact-checking-dinesh-dsouzas-2000-mules-2022-05-23
Another response:
https://www.hollywoodintoto.com/2000-mules-fact-checked/
I don’t even like Dinesh D’Souza, but I don’t see that this movie is any worse or less reliable than his others. I certainly don’t trust the standard big media snow job.
How naive of you. I would never pick you for any jury. Have you ever deposed anyone under oath? And caught them in a flat-out lie? I have, many times.
Just to be sure-I don’t know you well enough, and you are relatively new, so I will unconditionally apologize to you if I was too harsh.
This particular issue is a hot button issue with me, so if I caught you up in my dragnet of a statement, you are right. I should have been more considerate of your status as a relative newcomer.
To me, this is the best site on the Internet, and I am always glad to see when conservatives find their way here, as I once did back in 2004 and found an Internet home where people largely thought as I did, and was welcomed in.
I don’t want to drive someone away prematurely. I have made some posts in the past, particularly about John McCain, and given my background as not only a military dependent, a dependent who closely followed the POW scene as it played out in the late Sixties and early Seventies, but I was also a jet mechanic, and not just a jet mechanic, but one whose squadron McCain had been flying in when he was caught up in the terrible fire on the USS Forrestal back in 1967.
And I also served under McCain directly for few months in a RAG squadron out of Cecil Field in Florida in 1976, and actually was his Plane Captain for a few flights.
It was significant for me, because I was not inclined to be critical of a POW, and especially not a POW who was at one point my commanding officer, and one who still generated an institutional memory of him when I was in the squadron I was assigned to in the fleet.
So, I was not nearly as critical of him as I should have been, and opined some positive sentiments on various threads.
I could have absolutely been scalded alive on Free Republic for those uncritical, even kind remarks about McCain, but I had a Freeper freepmail me, and he gave me the lay of the land. He forced me to look at McCain, as execrable a politician as there had ever been, in a realistic light.
To this day, I am grateful to that Freeper, though I cannot recall his name, because he helped me out.
I should remember that before I bite the head off of someone who just found this site, ostensibly wishing to find a home and like-minded people to have discourse with.
So, yes. It was unfair of me, and I apologize to you for coming down on you by grouping you in with other people I should not be so tender-hearted with.
I hope you can be gracious enough and accept it from me.
You should know that Dinesh D’Souza did not name that man in public. He simply featured him in his video.
His face was even blurred out, IIRC. I have a copy. Pretty sure it was blurred out.
And Dinesh D’Souza did not reveal the guy’s name. Furthermore, how would he know who the ostensible mule was? That could only be known if they got his name from the cell phone provider, which would have required a subpoena for a legal investigation.
The question you should ask is, how did this guy filing the suit end up with the Leftist organization “Protect Democracy”? And how was his reputation injured?
The fact that he got on the stand and swore under oath is completely irrelevant. He swears to it. Who will prove him wrong? And he probably had his five “relatives”, all leftists like him, swearing to his lie. It is a safe bet. WHO wold catch him in the lie? The Georgia Bureau of Investigation?
The lawsuit from Protect Democracy is a form of lawfare to be used against conservatives. And that is it.
Which is caused by not having been here long enough to know who DOES know the specifics and a great deal more to form an informed opinion. Many FReepers have connections the noobies cannot possibly know (from inserting themselves here for a month). Well put, rlmorel!
The people who were promised some sort of veil of anonymity always had a risk of exposure through the courts. I just can’t see not wanting to take a stand. It gives the air of just tossing something out there and seeing where it falls. And Salem dropping out does nothing to stop that as there are other parties to this case.
Finally, why were they blurring the identifiers of the “mules”? If they were committing crimes? Wouldn’t you want them easily identifiable for law enforcement?
I really believe this was a Lindel type tactic. Make an accusation and get miffed when it’s easily disproven. And of course, the target audience still has faith in the produce.
Lazamataz smacks down: Oh, then I guess the Atlanta Journal-Constitution and Georgia Public Broadcasting got it wrong.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4241643/posts?page=124#124
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To: kiryandil
I believe Trump has had a fair trial. Should I be charged with crimes, I hope I would be treated as well as Trump.
148 posted on 5/29/2024, 11:06:08 PM by joesbucks
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4240700/posts?page=148#148
Well, he or she may not accept my apology but...I usually try.
This subject does make me angrier than hell though.
This is a great website. I spend at least 90% of my online time here, even if I use it as a jumping off point to learn more about issues. But I appreciate hearing the viewpoints of others on various things, when it is clear they have considered all aspects of the issue and may have a perspective that never occurred to me.
“..install locks to prevent future thefts.”
Sounds like a piss-poor way to deter such thievery.
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