Posted on 05/29/2024 8:23:32 AM PDT by janetjanet998
Merchan just delivered the coup de grace instruction. He said that there is no need to agree on what occurred. They can disagree on what the crime was among the three choices. Thus, this means that they could split 4-4-4 and he will still treat them as unanimous
So a dead misdemeanor for falsifying business records was zapped back into life by alleging that under NY election law 17-152 it was done to influence the election by the unlawful means of falsification of business records. It is so circular as to produce vertigo. So the jury finds some documents were falsified to use the unlawful means of falsifying other documents. That is only one of three possible crimes and the jury does not have to agree on which was the basis for their conviction.
And his legal status should be checked out. Nobody knows what year he was born. He was born in Columbia and claims he came here when he was 6. Well how come nobody can tell how old he is? He was appointed by super pro-illegal alien Mike Bloomberg. Not even leftist Wikipedia knows what year he was born
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Merchan
Here’s the legal documents......
https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/D.O.motion4contempt-FINAL.pdf
WHAT? What the F is THAT??
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It’s even worse
Apparently Trumps legal team didn’t even know what the addition crimes were going to be until today !!!
Also what is the burden of proof for these add on crimes?
What crimes are they talking about? This is insane. It seems to me this “judge” is only concerned about a conviction, any conviction which is knows will be overturned on appeal, he just wants to give Biden the ability to call Trump a felon. Unreal
The five
The judge goes into it about 2 mins in
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tcioE_r6nFs&t=991s&pp=ygUIVGhlIGZpZ2U%3D
The Supreme Court can do anything they want. If this piece of shit, Colombian immigrant, corrupt bastard can twist the law to benefit an outcome then I think it’s the duty and the right thing to do for the Supreme Court to jump in and stop this travesty. Before we end up, killing each other! I’m so sick of our side always playing the WOE is me we have to play by the rules, blah blah blah. We have to obey, blah blah blah. They have destroyed any shear of decency, fairness and the constitution what is there to lose? It’s time to rock ‘n’ roll people seriously. You cannot play nice with evil demon possess POS bastards!
From: Juror #8
To: judge Merchan
Your honor,my memorization skills are not what they once were, and I fear it will be necessary to have the the 43 pages of juror instructions read to me 100 times, or perhaps more, before I can remember them. Consequently I humbly request that I be excused due to mental insufficiency.
Thank you.
Juror #9
See how evil they are they pulled the rug right underneath Trump and his lawyers. There’s no going back if Trump gets a conviction, nothing will ever be the same again. The trust in the judicial branch would be completely and utterly destroyed. I for one don’t trust anybody anymore not the FBI the DOJ the CIA and hate to say it even some of our police Officers. I live in a blue city so I know what I’m talking about. And unfortunately, even some of the border patrol personnel guarding our border. There is an abundance of wickedness and corruption the likes we have never ever seen in America before. Yes it existed, but they kept themselves in the closet now it’s in the open for everyone to see it. And they don’t give a damn what you think. What the constitution says, they don’t. Especially a man who came from Columbia and is a piece of shit migrant ruling over the most famous president we have ever had. This is a travesty and I’m sick of it.
This lawless “Judge” is willing to toss away all credibility for himself and his position and fall on his sword as ordered by the dementia carcasses handlers. I wonder what else he imagines to gain for this so-called ‘service’ hes performing for them. Same question for Robert Deniro.
“And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.” Matthew 24:12
And you know this how? That is all speculation.
Yup
Yup
I am hoping that Patriots would totally stop going into New York - not just the city but the state!
I say this as as someone who went to hundreds of shows and museums in NYC. I love upper New York State and would be going up there this summer to Lake Placid, Saranac Lake, and Barnhart Island.
If they find Trump guilty I will cancel my reservations for August in northern New York.
We dont need a debate
We do need President Trump legally on all the ballots for Nov 5...
A conviction might disqualify him ...
Whats the election say ???
Whoops..
Whats the election LAW say ???
I will never leave you nor forsake you Hebrews 13:5
How well did God work out for the millions of Jews who prayed for their salvation against the NAZI’s?
Not too well.
Wake up, there is not a magical old fellow in the sky saving the day. I know it makes life easier to deal with down here if you just “believe it so”, but others like me deal in reality. Life is tough. We must be strong and fight for our freedoms, not praying that a entity saves us.
>> there is not a magical old fellow in the sky saving the day
I agree with you. Jehovah, the Creator of the Universe, is definitely NOT as you, who does not know Him, describe Him there.
>> We must be strong and fight for our freedoms, not praying that a entity saves us.
“I am a strong believer in prayer. There are three ways that men get what they want; by planning, by working and by praying. Any great military operation takes careful planning, or thinking. Then you must have well-trained troops to carry it out: that’s working. But between the plan and the operation there is always an unknown. That unknown spells defeat or victory, success or failure. It is the reaction of the actors to the ordeal when it actually comes.
“Some people call that getting the breaks; I call it God. God has His part, or margin, in everything, That’s where prayer comes in. Up to now, in the Third Army, God has been very good to us. We have never retreated; we have suffered no defeats, no famine, no epidemics. This is because a lot of people back home are praying for us. We were lucky in Africa, in Sicily and in Italy. Simply because people prayed. But we have to pray for ourselves, too. A good soldier is not made merely by making him think and work. There is something in every soldier that goes deeper than thinking or working — it’s his ‘guts.’ It is something that he has built in there: it is a world of truth and power that is higher than himself. Great living is not all output of thought and work. A man has to have intake as well. I don’t know what you call it, but I call it religion, prayer or God.”
So wrote General George S. Patton, a mighty warrior for freedom AND a mighty man of GOD, who was stronger than you’ll ever be and fought harder for YOUR and MY freedom than you ever have, or will, atheist keyboard warrior.
And, incidentally, George Patton was a key part of the ANSWER to the MANY prayers that ascended to the Throne of GOD to defeat Nazi Germany.
“This is a common but completely false troupe around here. There is nothing in the statute requiring conviction of an underlying crime. There’s nothing in the statute that even requires the defendant to be the one committing the underlying crime, or even requires the EXISTENCE of an underlying crime. If I cook corporate books because you’re going to embezzle funds and I want to hide it, but then you chicken out and don’t do it, I’d still be guilty of the felony falsification of business records because it was my intent to cover up a crime.”
The existence of an underlying crime isn’t required?
An underlying criminal statute must exist even though that statute may not necessarily have to be violated. BUT...
Intent MUST be established beyond a reasonable doubt. It is true that a person can unintentionally break a law of which he or she is unaware. However, intent is not established AT ALL for a violation of an “underlying” crime that not only did not happen but the defendant is unaware is a crime.
There would have to be a smoking gun. The prosecutor would need evidence of at least one specific crime that the defendant was aware of and intended to commit (or help others commit or cover up). There was no smoking gun. Just smoke and mirrors.
This is why these charges should never have been brought.
The judge wrongly defined “unlawful means” as various underlying crimes. And he told the jury they can take their pick:
“In determining whether the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means, you may consider the following:
(1) violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act otherwise known as FECA;
(2) the falsification of other business records; or
(3) violation of tax laws.”
These are not “unlawful means”. These are underlying crimes. The judge has it backward.
https://dictionary.findlaw.com/definition/means.html
Means—
1 a : something enabling one to achieve a desired end [a of self-defense]
b : cause
2 : resources (as income and assets) at one’s disposal
The judge is essentially instructing the jury that while the People must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump INTENDED to commit a crime, this intention can be so nebulous as to be just a general bad intent. It could be to do any one of several crimes which he does not have to have committed or even knew the applicable laws existed.
This is the biggest sham ever committed in the US legal system. It just doesn’t get any worse.
While I agree with you that the charges against Trump do not require the commission of an underlying crime, they do require at least an awareness of an underlying crime in order to establish intent. Without intent there is no case. And intent CANNOT simply be assumed. It MUST be proven.
As in my example, if you are trying to embezzle from the company, even if you don’t do it, is enough to get me for felony cooking the books. So I would say the difference between there being no underlying crime, and no underlying crime having been committed, is pretty much just semantics, but I guess your phraseology is slightly more accurate.
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