Posted on 05/29/2024 8:23:32 AM PDT by janetjanet998
Merchan just delivered the coup de grace instruction. He said that there is no need to agree on what occurred. They can disagree on what the crime was among the three choices. Thus, this means that they could split 4-4-4 and he will still treat them as unanimous
So a dead misdemeanor for falsifying business records was zapped back into life by alleging that under NY election law 17-152 it was done to influence the election by the unlawful means of falsification of business records. It is so circular as to produce vertigo. So the jury finds some documents were falsified to use the unlawful means of falsifying other documents. That is only one of three possible crimes and the jury does not have to agree on which was the basis for their conviction.
There is a possibility — remote, given that it’s New York, but still a possibility — of an honest and intelligent juror, which would produce a hung jury.
If I had to bet, I’d bet on a conviction. Trump will eventually win on appeal, but the dems will get their headline.
My question has to do with the exact proceedings after the judge announces the (likely) guilty verdict. Can Trump appeal prior to sentencing, or can the judge move immediately to sentencing? If Trump appeals at that stage, can the judge deem him a flight risk and order him held, or send him to prison pending the appeal?
The democrat base and democrat media desperately want Trump to be imprisoned. And if they can have him imprisoned through the election, the lunatics will not flinch from that. At this point, there is no reason to expect the slightest trace of integrity from this corrupt judge.
I’m sorry to disagree, but did you hear the instructions from the corrupt Columbia immigrant judge? Four-four-four, all you need is one set a four to convict . To me that is an impossibility that God can do a miracle in the situation where evil reigns. These people are evil, and unless God saps the courthouse, and the judge right now then I say trump has no chance. If you have 4DTS jurors there he’s cooked.
No, it is not! See post #20. SCOTUS has already ruled on this.
>> It will be overturned on appeal, but that won’t happen until the election is over.
I’m believing in faith that the Spirit of GOD will replace the heart of stone of juror(s) with a heart of flesh, and convict their conscience to acquit, or at least hang the jury.
However... should there be a conviction followed by a jail sentence of a President who happens to be also a candidate in the election five short months away... and should there be any attempt to actually jail President Trump... I believe that would rocket the matter out of the hands of any state appeals court straight into the Supreme Court on an emergency basis.
Just my 2c
What are the chances a guilty verdict will be overturned on appeal?
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100%
But meanwhile, DJT rots in Rikers and cannot campaign, for all the good it would do him, as any appeal process could take past January and maybe, even a year or more before the process would be done.
There will be no debate. Nor will DJT be elected - who’s going to vote for a convicted felon sitting in some prison for President - a President that would preside not from DC, but from some prison until his appeal process finds him innocent?
Obama/Biden gets another 4 years to finish destroying the USA.
>> I believe Cannon is from Columbia also.
She is.
It’s about money.
His daughter has raised over $100 Million weeks ago, off her daddy’s case.
It’s probably $120 Million by now.
The appeal doesn’t affect that. And the NY appeals has ruled against Trump about 30 times.
Judge Merchan told Trump and the lawyers, “You cannot leave the building. We need you to be able to get here quickly if we do receive a note.”
AP
That judge needs to be tarred and feathered as soon as this trial is over!
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And then deported back to his native country - Columbia.
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And Turley will still vote Democrat ...
Merchan also allowed Jurors that said they hated Trump onto the Jury.
He was going to get Trump, make no mistake.
The “JUDGE” will retire shortly after this debacle. He will live in luxury the rest of his miserable life and NOT because of his retirement income.
Did Merchan actually go to law school?
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Yes he has his degree from a prestigious Colombian law school, founded & endowed by Pablo Escobar.
“These instructions are truly absurd. First, Trump has to be convicted of a predicate crime before the NY case can proceed. Even if that is not true, there has to be unanimity on what the jurors perceive as the predicate crime. If 4 jurors think that Trump is guilty of a predicate crime, that means 8 jurors disagree.”
This is a common but completely false troupe around here. There is nothing in the statute requiring conviction of an underlying crime. There’s nothing in the statute that even requires the defendant to be the one committing the underlying crime, or even requires the EXISTENCE of an underlying crime. If I cook corporate books because you’re going to embezzle funds and I want to hide it, but then you chicken out and don’t do it, I’d still be guilty of the felony falsification of business records because it was my intent to cover up a crime.
All that the jurors are allowed to disagree on is which specific crime they believe Trump was trying to hide. All 12 have to still believe he was hiding A crime.
A group pro-Trump demonstrators across the street from the courthouse have been loudly heckling the news crews stationed there for the last 20 to 30 minutes, yelling things like “liars,” “screw you,” “f—k you,” and “f—k AOC.”
NBC “News”
It came out when people started the...Merchan is from Columbia blog...
Trump is reported to have told reporter that “Mother Theresa could not get a fair trial.”
>> To me that is an impossibility that God can do a miracle in the situation where evil reigns.
The GOD I worship can impregnate a virgin with His Spirit and give birth to His Son, fully man and fully divine.
“With GOD, all things are possible.” Including replacing a few hearts of stone with sensitive hearts of flesh.
You can shut down in fear and unbelief, or you can pray in faith. Your choice. I have made mine.
It still leaves the possibility that one or more juror thinks no crime was proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
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CORRECTION:
It still leaves the possibility that one or more juror thinks no crime was proven beyond a reasonable doubt and is willing allow themselves and/or their family to be assaulted, their livelihood threatened and their property destroyed.
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