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After WW2 there was hope. Germany and Japan threw away their authoritarian tendencies and flowered as liberal democracies. What differentiates them from Iraq, Afghanistan, and for that matter Russia, which when their totalitarian governments fall or are are thrown down revert as quickly as possible back to the old way? Think that through. Is it genetic, even?
1 posted on 05/27/2024 4:10:54 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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2 posted on 05/27/2024 4:15:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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Nation building is no match for what TOTALITARIANS have built.


3 posted on 05/27/2024 4:19:20 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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4 posted on 05/27/2024 4:22:56 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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It’s Islam.


5 posted on 05/27/2024 4:49:28 AM PDT by jdsteel (PA voters elected a stroke victim and a dead guy. Not a joke. )
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Is it genetic, even?

No, it is not genetic. Both Germany and Japan evolved into parliamentary democracies between 1870 and 1925. I have also seen it stated that the countries that had the best experience after the collapse of the Warsaw Pact all had a legitimate election (as viewed by the local population) between 1920 and 1939.

I thought Iraq had a chance, but that would have required keeping an elected government in place viewed as legitimate by the Iraqis for 30 to 40 years. See the experience of both South Korea and Taiwan, Single party dictatorships in 1960, by 1990 despite some uncomfortable and not entirely bloodless political upheaval both are multiparty democracies.

6 posted on 05/27/2024 5:19:36 AM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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Nation building? Heck, we can’t even build a floating dock!


9 posted on 05/27/2024 5:35:01 AM PDT by Fireone (Who killed Obama's chef?)
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This is not nation buildings last stand. It’s a grand part of the military industrial complex where those not selling guns or using them get to build things to be given to those that win those money making wars.

As long as there is money to be made by nation building it will go on. The only way to stop it is by overhauling the govt, which is what Trump wants to do.

There are so many reasons why the left fears Trump I actually worry about his safety.


10 posted on 05/27/2024 5:41:31 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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We still have the Ukraine.

Meanwhile the US is being rebuilt into something other than American.


11 posted on 05/27/2024 5:43:59 AM PDT by Leep (Leftardism strikes 1 in 5.)
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It’s a blog.
Why not post the whole thing right here?


12 posted on 05/27/2024 6:21:02 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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The point of the IDF killing off of Hamas is to cleanse politically.

A new nation will be formed by the coalition of Abraham Accord members that will resolve all the old insoluble problems. The coalition will create what amounts to a protectorate governed by the coalition until such time as it is deemed cleansed of Hamas and the PLA

President Trump will lend a strong hand but not Taxpayer money. That will come from the zakat guilt funds from the Arabs.


13 posted on 05/27/2024 6:36:41 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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You really have a blind spot where Russia is concerned, don’t you?!


17 posted on 05/27/2024 7:28:18 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeS>ntis has all the wrong friends.)
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We defeated Nazi Germany pretty thoroughly (firebombing cities, etcetera) and, yes, Occupied it.
We defeated Japan pretty thoroughly (nuking cities, etcetera) and yes, Occupied it.

those tactics worked, at least they’ve worked pretty well from 1945 to 2024. (We will see what the future may bring...)

When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, we didn’t offer it California, Oregon, and Washington as a reward

when Germany overran most of Europe and bombed London, we didn’t offer it New York and Massachusetts as a reward

On the other hand, Britain tried to appease, give concessions to Nazi Germany for several years prior to the outbreak of WW2. Allowing Germany to rebuild its air force. Allowing Germany to substantially increase the size of its navy from that set by the Treaty of Versailles. Allowing Germany to invade and occupy part of Czechoslovakia. Along with USA, allowing, along and facilitating and financing the re-industrialization of Germany including heavy steel, auto, rail, many more concessions, attempts at appeasement. it all worked to enable Nazi Germany to become the strongest nation in Europe...and to win the first couple of years when it launched WW2.

We need to let the IDF eliminate the threats and stop defending and resupplying the (Nazi-style) Arab terrorists


19 posted on 05/27/2024 9:06:49 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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The amusing thing is the Zeeper neocon nit wit like yourself thought "nation building" was a good idea in Ukraine, where fomented an illegal, installed a puppet government and setoff a civil war.

Or is nation building only good when the defense industry and our political elite can make money off it?

We are so far away from Reagan's foreign policy, which had the objective of freeing people in the rest of the world from tyranny.

20 posted on 05/27/2024 9:15:03 AM PDT by Kazan
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Why is sticking our noses into Georgia not an example of nation building? Who in hell are we to tell the Georgian government it can't enact the Foreign Agent Registration Act?

Because it might keep George and Alex Soros from making money there?

21 posted on 05/27/2024 9:20:35 AM PDT by Kazan
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The countries that have a “kill my neighbor’s goat” mentality will never be able to become functional societies until they get rid of it.


23 posted on 05/27/2024 11:30:06 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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