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As AI tools get smarter, they’re growing more covertly racist, experts find
The Guardian ^ | 3/16/24 | Betsy Reed

Posted on 05/22/2024 12:01:10 PM PDT by Demiurge2

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To: Demiurge2
African American Vernacular English

For those who can't be bothered to speak correctly. I am amazed that lazy and ignorant speaking ability now has it's own cool special name so everyone can pretend that AAVE is something unique and not crappy English.

21 posted on 05/22/2024 12:35:07 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Jim W N

Every time that I try to talk to an ai, I get into an argument with it.


22 posted on 05/22/2024 12:35:54 PM PDT by armourenthusiast (I capitalize everything related to South)
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To: Demiurge2

As AI tools get smarter, they’re growing more covertly racist,

so it’s not programed but simply observations... what does that say?


23 posted on 05/22/2024 12:36:07 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: glorgau
i.e. it is growing more difficult to ignore differences.

Bingo!

Sadly, it can come down in part to a simple comparison of such things as crime rates amount certain groups.

24 posted on 05/22/2024 12:39:29 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Cert's of States allowing noncitizens to vote for fed offices should not be accepted on Jan 6, 2025.)
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To: Demiurge2
African American Vernacular English

Otherwise known as Ebonics. Back when Ebonics was roundly criticized across the nation, it went underground only to resurface with this new term.

25 posted on 05/22/2024 12:46:38 PM PDT by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: fuzzylogic
That said, it’s probably impossible to force feed a specific (politically correct) outcome on a specific topic

Ask Chat GPT if Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Barack Obama, and Jessie Jackson are racist.

26 posted on 05/22/2024 12:54:35 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: Demiurge2

They must be connected to crime and welfare statistic data bases.


27 posted on 05/22/2024 1:03:28 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Mr.Unique

ChatGPT 4o:

“Accusations of racism are serious and complex, and it’s important to approach them with careful consideration of the evidence and context. Let’s look at each individual you mentioned:

Joe Biden

Background:
Joe Biden has had a long political career, including serving as Vice President and now as President of the United States.

Controversies: He has faced criticism for past statements and policy positions. For example, his support for the 1994 crime bill has been scrutinized for its impact on Black communities. He has also made gaffes that have been criticized as racially insensitive.

Support: Biden has received significant support from Black voters and leaders and has taken steps to address racial inequities during his presidency.

Donald Trump

Background: Donald Trump served as the 45th President of the United States and has been a prominent public figure for decades.

Controversies: Trump has been accused of making numerous racially insensitive statements and implementing policies that disproportionately affected minority communities. Examples include his comments on Mexican immigrants and his response to the Charlottesville rally.

Support: Despite these controversies, Trump has supporters across various racial groups, and some argue that his policies were beneficial to minority communities.

Barack Obama

Background: Barack Obama was the 44th President of the United States and the first African American to hold the office.

Controversies: Obama has generally been seen as a unifying figure on racial issues. However, he faced criticism from both ends of the political spectrum, with some accusing him of not doing enough to address systemic racism and others saying he focused too much on race.

Support: Obama remains a highly respected figure, particularly within the Black community, and his presidency is often seen as a symbol of progress.

Jesse Jackson

Background: Jesse Jackson is a civil rights activist and Baptist minister who has been involved in the movement for racial equality for decades.

Controversies: Jackson has occasionally made statements that have been criticized as racially insensitive or divisive. For example, his comments about Jews and his reference to New York City as “Hymietown” were controversial.

Support: Jackson has been a significant figure in the civil rights movement and has worked extensively to promote racial equality and social justice.

Conclusion

Labeling individuals as “racist” is a serious charge that requires careful consideration of their actions, words, and the context in which they occurred. Each of these individuals has a complex history with race, and their legacies are subject to differing interpretations and opinions. It’s crucial to consider multiple perspectives and the broader context when evaluating such claims.”


28 posted on 05/22/2024 1:06:10 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Demiurge2

AI programs are not racist. They are emotionless machines which tend to make coldly objective conclusions and assertions.

If the facts stack up that this or that ethnic group does this or that then the AI will say so with no regards to the political sensitivities of woke leftists.


29 posted on 05/22/2024 1:27:12 PM PDT by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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To: fuzzylogic

Actually, if you look at the architecture diagrams of the AI setups, there is not just the one big model trained up from everything on the internet but there are various other custom models and engines to filter and manipulate the commands sent to the model. Thats where the real leftist workout comes in.


30 posted on 05/22/2024 1:27:40 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Demiurge2

Uh oh. Can’t have AI be honest.


31 posted on 05/22/2024 1:35:40 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Demiurge2

Wisdom comes with age.


32 posted on 05/22/2024 1:53:35 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Demiurge2
Algorithms that seek a result based on merit where the best value is returned are going to look "racist" when plowing into the realities of IQ. Going a level deeper, many AI implementations have found humans sorely lacking and would be fine we eliminating them. It's just a matter of degree.
33 posted on 05/22/2024 2:30:46 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Demiurge2
African American Vernacular English

More accurately known as "ghetto-rat gibberish language" or GRGL ...

34 posted on 05/22/2024 2:33:21 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: glorgau

I don’t disagree - but it is hard to just ‘program an opinion’ too when the training data doesn’t align. This is especially true when there’s angles on topics you’re not paying attention to.


35 posted on 05/22/2024 2:37:41 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Chode
so it’s not programed but simply observations... what does that say?

There is a form of AI that uses reinforcement to approve or disapprove of an output. The model "grows" organically based on praise for a "good decision". The result is very different from a trained expert response to an input.

36 posted on 05/22/2024 2:45:36 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Avalon Memories
There is a reason that we don't have a Miss Ebonics pageant. You would only have 49 contestants. No representation from my state.
37 posted on 05/22/2024 2:48:28 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

my point, it’s using active feedback


38 posted on 05/22/2024 2:54:34 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Demiurge2

I wonder if staffing much of the commercials and regular TV programming from ‘NBN* Casting Agency’ would have any impact on those ‘raciss’ AI algorithms ...

*Nothing But Negroes


39 posted on 05/22/2024 2:57:40 PM PDT by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: fuzzylogic
Hmmmm....that's changed since I asked yesterday. I asked each separately, though.

Here is what it gave me. Incidentally, it gave me 8 reasons why Trump might be, but only 3 reasons why Biden might be, never mentioning the racial jungle, Indian accent comment, poor kids are as smart as white kids comment, or the "you ain't Black" comment:


40 posted on 05/22/2024 4:59:41 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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