Posted on 05/18/2024 3:55:35 AM PDT by airdalecheif
Illegal immigration and control over the nation's borders will be one of the major issues in this fall's elections, and a key aspect of that issue is the number of people who are present in the country today - and what should be done about them. Should he win reelection, former President Donald Trump is reportedly being advised to deport almost 20 million illegal aliens, in a project similar to the United Kingdom's Rwanda policy:
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
...that they stop coming now, and that they end up deporting 25 million?
meat cubes...
That’s why Texas Governor Abbott should be VP!
“How can someone be deported when no one knows where they are living?”
...or where they came from...?
Visa-overstayers go back decades...
“Stop all free stuff to illegals, offer free rides home, stop employers from hiring any illegals.”
It may come down to ridding Illegals just like US landlords rid themselves of tenants.
That is, to PAY them to leave. In the long term, that’d be lot cheaper!
Round’em up. I didn’t think the concept would be that hard to grasp.
Where did you get your law degree, Walmart?
It's not that easy sport, every documented illegal that has come into this country and released is entitled to a hearing before an immigration judge.
Currently there are only 600 Immigration Judges across this country and as of 2 years ago, there was a back load of over 3 million cases. Which in my opinion, was grossly understated.
In the past three years alone, we have experienced over 8 million KNOWN illegals cross into this country.
So tell me Perry Mason, assuming every single one of those over 8 million illegals appear in court, how long do you think it will take to get those 8 million into court and ultimately deported, after all the appeal processes they will be entitled to, let alone the 20 million Trump claims?
Obviously one of those Walmart lawyers hanging out on this site.......
Refer to Post #148............
So you’d no nothing? I realize that history may be a bit challenging for some, but there is already a precedent for mass internment in this country…just ask the U.S. citizens of Japanese decent.
Trump won’t just need to challenge the status quo if he gets re-elected, he’s going to need to slaughter that sacred cor and eat it bloody. So this would be the premise:
1) Declare a state of emergency, which it is, lock down down the border and anyone that comes across illegally is immediately turned around. Authorize the use of deadly force.
2) Anyone in the justice department that chooses to not comply is terminated.
3) Work with the states to institute containment centers where those already inside our border are consigned to awaiting a hearing. Those hearings will be performed by multiple panels at each containment center, which would be hand selected to and given very narrow parameters to work within.
4) those deemed worthy will be a given a document stating where to appear in 30 days or be immediately deported when found.
5) Any government benefits are revoked, and any states providing such benefits will have federal fund likewise revoked.
6) any non-profit organizations aiding and abetting illegals within, or attempting to come within this country, will have their non-profit status revoked, and subject to criminal charges. Since a state of emergency is declared, this may afford other actions against them.
7) Declare eminent domain of all land within 100 yards of the border. This will be no man’s land and any authorized individual within this land may be subject to item #1.
8) Allow states to remit illegals caught in crimes, traffic violations, etc., to submit illegals to containment centers for processing. Out of this country.
9) Grant border states the right to aid and assist in Item #1. No more of the border patrol versus state law enforcement and who has authority over what.
10) revoke Mexico’s favored trade status.
11) implement a system to halt any individual from wiring funds to Mexico.
12) executive order that only appeals conducted by an individual from within their country of origin at a local embassy will be considered.
Trump will need to go full scorched earth, and issue so edicts that it makes it impossible for anyone to keep up. Anyone from the Department of Justice will be barred from arguing against these initiatives. He will also likely have to call the bluff of some of the Federal judges and tell them to pound sand. Force it to the Supreme Court, and then rinse and repeat.
Or we can take what sounds like your approach, either do nothing, or try to get Congress to place nicely with itself and just tag along for the ride. Because that’s seemed to work so well in the past.
Here in Texas, and other places I’ve lived, they are not hiding by any stretch. Not even in the slightest.
First question in your rant and you prove that you're just another idiot who thinks they have all the answers to the illegal immigration problem without giving a thought to the legal issues surrounding their first locating them then taking them to court......
Nice try tho
Consider this in regard to our future:
5. Sacajaweau - Go back to the system that worked so well (pre-1965 Ted Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson).
Going back to a Eurocentric merit-based system where we got the best and brightest from all around the world while leaving parasitic drains to linger in their home countries made perfect sense. But that was best for our nation and didn't bring the Democrats votes so...
6. Mayflower Madame - 'I think think there are quite a few “zombie” prisons that could house illegals.'
True and an excellent idea as theres a surplus of old prisons and abandoned mental hospitals unused all around the country still absorbing tax money through maintenance costs. Install modern technology and upgraded measures (injecting tracking devices into the illegals themselves) and they'll be worth the cost.
13. Omnivore-Dan - Finish the border wall.
Big "duh-uh" here. Sons of bitches keep sending BILLIONS to their money launderer Zelensky but can't spare a fraction of that to finish our own security. Utterly reeks of BS and slow national suicide to boot. "Re-pubs (boom boom), what are they good for? (boom boom) Absolutely nothin'. Huh! Say it again."
16. Cowgirl of Justice - Anchor babies.
Another overdue job needing finished. Since the Supreme Court keeps pulling a Brave Sir Robin Congress must pass definitive law or an Amendment if need be. Make it retroactive to nullify the Kenyan's damage while you're at it.
20. VRW Conspirator - Get existing law enforcement on it with incentives.
Great, but first they have to have protection from corrupt Judicial and Alphabets.
25. RedFreedom - The depended upon minorities are waking to the fact they're being abandoned for the illegals.
Too little too late? The men are definitely with us but the women, now on their 3rd generation of Uncle Sugar Daddy checks for Fatherless Children, are a total loss.
29. Moovova - Cut off the money payments/renewable debit cards, turn off the free phones, raid the migrant hotels, stop paying the NGOs, start rounding up the easy pickings at the Lowe’s/Home Depot parking lots, strictly enforce penalties on employers hiring illegals, offer a bounty on “newcomers”.
All good except the rounding up (too many layers of lawyers). Forcing self-deportation by drying up their resources is wiser
30. Eeriegeno - Executive order #1, titled Self Deportation Order - If you are here illegally we expect that you will willingly go back to where you came from else, when caught, you are promised a 10 year (minimum) jail sentence. Mojave Desert prison cities are where you will be incarcerated. Any and all social benefits cease immediately (welfare, SNAP, rent, cell service, etc). Any employer who employs an illegal alien will be subject to a fine of $10k/day/employee. Repeat offenders will lose their right to do business in America!
Right track but corrupt judges ruled Sheriff Arpaio's desert prison to be cruel and unusual, specifically citing his having them wear bright pink pajamas. Their REAL problem is that his solution worked TOO well.
57. Ancesthntr - Cut off their money, give them a free ticket to anywhere outside the US that they want, and give them a couple thousand dollars. They will have every incentive in the world to leave, and even with paying for their flights and giving them a cash incentive, we will Make up for in a couple of months time. Meanwhile, this will solve a lot of employment problems among actual Americans, and destroy the generations one Democrat plan to remake the electorate.
You'd think so but the sad fact is that too many citizens have learned to squeak by on "under the table" incomes just like the illegals who put them out of legitimate work, if they aren't getting by on scams. This is how tolerating the illegal alien job market corrupts our entire system and harms those trying to do things the right way.
61. Yuleeyahoo - If a Trump victory is assured, expect Congress to legalize the illegals before Trump takes office.
THAT would be the actual spark of righteous rebellion they really don't want. Satan's tools prefer a slow tactic of subversion from the inside out, like what they've been doing in the Republican party with McCain, Romney, McConnell, Graham...
62. Theoria - Walls are meaningless if you don't put employers of illegals, groups that aid and abet illegals, ie churches, schools, politicians in jail. There would be no reason to have walls if people who used illegals were put in jail and their businesses shut down. However, the gop has no intention of being serious about doing that.
64. XRdsRev - Good plan too rational for the Democrats. You cited too many stop-gaps preventing illegals from voting. Please keep up the great work.
67. LS - Overnight employment would soar, wages would rise, confidence among men and optimism in the future would go off the charts.
Not overnight as there's been six plus years of disincentive starting with the manufactured COVID crisis, but good people always need justification for their existance. Work does that. If only this DEI crap weren't in the way of competence and earned skills.
73. Cotton Ball - Businesses that hire illegals undercut all their competition unfairly, because they avoid paying things like Social Security and workers compensation, in many cases. They also pay lower wages. Ask any business that is trying to do their work legally that deal with construction or lawn care.
THIS is how good people are forced to go along with bad practices. When considering this you can see how a dirt-bags like Epstein get advantage over the unwary. Hollywood has a whole cult devoted to this that Stanley Kubrick was telling us about with his last film. Last. Film.
893. 5. Mr.Jeeves - Reprogram them into patriots.
Everyone would love that but we're talking about a group with no real loyalties beyond satisfying Gimme Gimme. Until forced into a corner these mercenaries will go with wherever the profit is while laughing at patriotic sympathies.
93. JohnBovenmyer - is a total nerd genius in the system posting:
Check status of those receiving them. Those legal keep gimmes, those not have status of others claiming to be with them also get checked. Boot those who fail checks. Those who avoid being checked taken off list for gimmes until they cooperate and pass checks. So the legals are motivated to cooperate. And the illegals get, at least, deported from US budget.
130. Qaz123 - Cut benefits to them. Tax remittance at 75%. Start scheduling asylum hearings for them. If they don’t show up, warrant and immediate deportation. If they seek representation on appeal, they can do so from their home of record. Pretty simple: asylum hearing date…no show….benefits cut the moment the just bangs the gavel….they come crying for help, straight to the eportation plane(C130-C141-C17-C5) \\\Start sending the bills associated with all of this to the “refugee charities”. Mandate that all the “refugee charity non-profits” will be required to spend no more than 20% on staff salaries and expenses.
And like Soetero and Biden, if a court orders something, ignore it and keep the Air Force flying south full and back home empty.
148. Hot tobasco - Assuming every single one of those over 8 million illegals appear in court, how long do you think it will take to get those 8 million into court and ultimately deported, after all the appeal processes they will be entitled to, let alone the 20 million Trump claims?
Just way too much for any system relying on respect for human rights and humanitarianistic ethics. Hence all tyrannical regimes (USSR, China, Hitler's Germany} always resorted to outright killing of dissenters.
150 - VoiceReason - Your best suggestion #7 (Declare eminent domain of all land within 100 yards of the border. This will be no man’s land and any authorized individual within this land may be subject to item #1: Declare a state of emergency, which it is, lock down down the border and anyone that comes across illegally is immediately turned around. Authorize the use of deadly force.
Makes absolute common sense for a nation rationally preseving it's sovereignty while defending it's future.
great summary, TY for all your work
I gave you the answer as far as rounding them up. Locating them isn’t an issue, cause they aren’t hiding.
In addition to funding other countries problems, the BribeMe admin sold millions of dollars of materials that was to be used to continue the wall, for pennies on the dollar.
Really? How do you round them up if you don't have legitimate addresses for them?
Here's a group waiting for an address in which to receive their notice of court appearance 8 years from now........LOL
And here's another one.....
So people can get photos of illegals, but then we don’t know where they are???
One would think that if they can photo a group of people, clearly out in the open, then they could rounded up.
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