Posted on 05/10/2024 7:43:51 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
The education board for a rural Virginia county voted early on Friday to restore the names of Confederate generals stripped from two schools in 2020, making the mostly white, Republican district the first in the U.S. to take such an action.
By a 5-1 vote, the Shenandoah County board overturned its 2020 decision that stripped a public high school and elementary school of their original names honoring three military leaders of the pro-slavery South in the Civil War.
Under the board's action, Mountain View High School will again become known as Stonewall Jackson High, while Honey Run Elementary School will revert to the name Ashby Lee Elementary.
The names belong to some of the most well-known military leaders of the Confederacy. Robert E. Lee was commander of the Army of Northern Virginia; Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson was a Confederate infantry general, and Turner Ashby was a rebel cavalry commander. All of them were Virginians.
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It might surprise you to learn that (prior to the revisionist view that started with Gone With the Wind) Sherman was very much liked and respected in the South. It was understood that he believed in "total war" in wartime, but "total peace" in peacetime. In fact, when one of my gg grandfathers was commander of the local UCV camp, he was invited to dinner and gave a speech and was roundly applauded. It was in the paper!
I wrote my thesis on the myths promulgated by GWTW, using another gg grandfather's letters home, which languished in my great-aunt's breakfront for 100 years or so. One of my professors quoted him in extenso in a book. He couldn't spell very well, but he was quite eloquent.
And, I agree with Sherman.
When Grant left for Appomattox Lincoln told him “Let them up easy’’.
I wonder if the Confederacy had prevailed would they have been so charitable.
“Lincoln Nazi regime. Yeah, right Nazis. 70 odd years before the Nazis even emerged. And get this through your f'ing head right now I'm no Antifa stooge numbnuts. That's as asinine a comment as any fifth grader would make. Lost Cause Loser. That's you.
Would you agree that this erasing History’s names will be beneficial to the future generations.
Should we have NO history to rely on to tell the truth.
Think about NO YOUNG Person in America not hearing the names, Robert Lee, Stonewall Jackson, et al.
Just for the record...I am not a Southerner, but I respect Honest History.
“ So Confederate, Sheila Jackson Lee will get to keep her names.”
LOL
BTTT
Awww - poor little fifth grader who didn’t learn to read doesn’t like it when I use their words back at them.
Most view the 1860s through present day lenses, and judge the south as evil for its treatment of slaves, when the south was judging slavery through lenses of the past which deemed it a natural order of things.
Horrific as it seems now, looking back, the south, looking back from their perspective, always saw enslaved people as a common practice.
If the south prevailed, the practice of slavery was still doomed but a north surrender would just mean secession. I am sure though, that the mason Dixon line would have a wall there.
Reflect on what you just wrote. You expended four sentences describing the goals and objectives of Confederate Apologist-in-Chief Woodrow Wilson and concluded by pinning them to Lincoln.
Wilson sucked no doubt. He certainly was not a "Confederate Apologist in Chief". I didn't need to pin anything on Lincoln. He pinned it on himself. He was the one who overthrew the balanced system the Founders created in which states were constitutional actors in their own right and reduced them to being little more than subservient administrative conveniences of the all powerful federal government in Washington. He's the one that changed the union from one based on consent to one based on threats and violence.
All the Southern states wanted was to leave in peace. They never sought to impose their rule on the Northern states.
The fact is they were not and you throw the term "traitor" and "treason" around without having the slightest clue what the actual meaning is. Treason is the only crime specifically defined in the constitution. If you read it, the relevant part says "making war against them". "Them" is plural. It means the states. It does not mean the federal government. The one who made war against them is Lincoln. he is the actual traitor to the US Constitution.
They were going to take another vote in light of Lincoln's demand from each state that it provide troops to attack other states which no longer consented to being ruled by Washington DC.
To begin with Lincoln caused those deaths. He is the one who chose to start a war to impose federal government rule on sovereign states which did not consent to it.
How the hell do you people call yourselves CONSERVATIVES yet at the same time ignore the Declaration of Independence "Government derives its legitimacy from the consent of the governed" and the 9th and 10th amendments to the Constitution which says all powers not delegated by the states to the federal government are reserved to the states AND you can't claim that if the Constitution is silent on an issue then that is a power or right that does not exist?
Firing on Fort Sumter in 1861 didn't help that goal...
Of course, by definition, it wasn't a 'civil war'; historians politicize such labels. Lincoln was determined to 'preserve the Union' at any cost. A side effect of that decision has been dangerous weakening of state's rights, being more strongly felt today as D.C. becomes more and more a dictatorship❗
Dark days ahead. 🔥🙁
Obviously they did no such thing. They exercised their sovereign right to "resume the powers of government" they had delegated to the federal government after determining the federal government had become abusive of their rights and happiness. Obviously preservation of slavery was not their big concern because A) slavery simply was not threatened in the US and B) lest anybody think it was, the North was only too happy to offer express protection effectively forever via the Corwin Amendment....something which the original 7 seceding states turned down.
The Upper South only seceded when Lincoln chose to start a war. They had been content to remain in until that point.
bttt
What you and some others who are clueless about history haven't figured out is that the South was ALWAYS a bastion of Conservatism. It never supported the creation of a federal leviathan. Right from the very start it wanted the federal government to be limited, its budgets to be both modest and balanced, and it wanted to stay out of foreign wars......ie things we call Conservative today.
New England always wanted the exact opposite. Those who supported big government, corporate welfare, crony capitalism, centralized power, etc were Republicans in the mid 19th century. They are Democrats today and those who are Conservatives today are Republicans. Political parties change over time. Hell, MAGA is changing the Republican party right now.
The choice Lincoln put them to was to fire to drive an invader away, or not fire and be occupied without defending themselves. If somebody is invading your home and you fire a warning shot to drive him away, you are not the aggressor. He is. He's the one who was invading your home after all.
You are correct. A civil war....a true civil war is when one or more sides fight for control over the central government. That was no more the case in 1861 than it had been in 1776. The Southern states never sought to rule over the Northern states in the same way that Washington never intended to march into London, depose George III and proclaim himself king. The much more accurate term for that conflict is the War for Southern Independence. That's what it actually was.....a war of independence.
I find the present collection of anti-Confederates to be a bunch of self-righteous jerks. At best. At worst they’re leftists trying to destroy all of American history.
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