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Self-checkout machines face ban in California with new bill aimed at curbing theft
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | May 8, 2024 | Elaine Mallon

Posted on 05/08/2024 6:30:19 PM PDT by lowbridge

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To: lowbridge

Just 1 woman stole $60,000 from 1 Target using the self checkout.

My Walmart blocks use of the self checkout after 4pm in Porter Ranch, Calif.


21 posted on 05/08/2024 7:52:00 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: lowbridge
The bill also mandates that stores access how using artificial intelligence or other technology may cut jobs and “significantly affects the essential job functions of its employees.”

The job of a grocery store is to sell groceries. It's not a 'make work' situation.

If California was this stupid a hundred and fifty years ago, we'd still have blacksmiths making horse shoes... need 'em or not, ya gotta keep the blacksmith's job going.

22 posted on 05/08/2024 8:30:05 PM PDT by GOPJ (Takes 6 to 9 months to 'organize' a nationwide protest.This one was organized after October 7th...)
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To: GOPJ

“”If California was this stupid a hundred and fifty years ago, we’d still have blacksmiths making horse shoes””

I often use the concept of subsidies for horseshoes as a way to demonstrate the insanity of subsidies. I used to point out almost every EV we would spot on the road, stating something close to ‘there is another EV we helped purchase.’ My family and friends eventually asked me to stop pointing them out; not because they were mad at me, but they were incensed that we taxpayers all pay for a portion of the EV.


23 posted on 05/08/2024 9:16:47 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Old Yeller
The honor system will not work when the majority of society is dishonorable.

By why is it necessary to legislate this? Why must Big Govt. get involved?

The shopkeepers are probably good capitalists, and can decides for themselves how much AI they need and/or how much shoplifting they can endure.

Regards,

24 posted on 05/08/2024 11:42:18 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
To get the $6 off on the blades, I had to clip a digital coupon in the Walgreens app on my phone. The iPhone was running out of storage and had offloaded the app, so it had to re-download to my phone. Then I got logged in and had to use the same phone number that is on my Walgreens account. Was it MY mobile? My wife’s mobile? Our old home phone land line? All told, it took about 20 minutes to get the blades and do all that crap with their app. It was the third merchant this week that made me get their app to get their best price.

Clearly, that one Master's degree you have in Computer Science wasn't enough! You should have tried bypassing the compressor and diverting anti-tachyons through the main deflector shields!

Regards,

25 posted on 05/08/2024 11:46:09 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: lowbridge

The self checkouts will have to be replaced with employees running the check stands. My question is, is the loss from self checkout theft greater than the pay for check stand operators?


26 posted on 05/09/2024 12:59:22 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Old Yeller

Costco solves the problem of unpaid merchandise rolling out of the store. They check every pay slip against the merchandise going out the door.


27 posted on 05/09/2024 2:22:42 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: jonrick46

Just prosecute shoplifters stealing anything more than $2 per day.


28 posted on 05/09/2024 2:38:59 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: lowbridge

how would this affect theft?

store employees are threatened not to try to stop any shop lifter and will be fired if they do. Police are told, theft below a certain level is not even a crime and prosecutors will not charge them.


29 posted on 05/09/2024 4:30:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: jonrick46

“My question is, is the loss from self checkout theft greater than the pay for check stand operators?”

Per hour yes. In their greed to cut labor costs they stepped on their own feet.


30 posted on 05/09/2024 4:31:19 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: lowbridge

Self checkout should be banned..they suck at best seldom if ever work correctly and stealing is a given to many who use them.


31 posted on 05/09/2024 4:55:11 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: lowbridge

Self-checkout machines might not be a good idea in high-shoplifting areas, but can’t the stores decide on their own whether or not to use them?

“... may require grocers to hire more employees, narrowing profit margins and potentially leading to store closures. “

One of many examples of how our economy is now running less efficiently.


32 posted on 05/09/2024 5:05:27 AM PDT by cymbeline (we saw men break out of a concentration camp.”)
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To: alexander_busek

lol…


33 posted on 05/09/2024 5:44:44 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: lowbridge
Yet ANOTHER DUMB-A$$ politician who supposedly KNOWS more about the retail business than RETAILERS themselves. She is is attempting to CREATE LAWS that will govern how retail must function.

Truly California... CRAZY, as well as STUPID!

34 posted on 05/09/2024 6:00:53 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: jonrick46

Some base math to help bring it into perspective. If you have a product that costs you a dollar and your sell price is $1.50 and someone steals just one you have to give away three for free to break even on cost and profit for that one item.

So you are not just out the profit you would have made, you are also out the cost to replace that item. This adds up three times faster as the true loss. If one in every four of these items are stolen you never do catch up and make a dime.


35 posted on 05/09/2024 6:04:48 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: VideoDoctor

“Yet ANOTHER DUMB-A$$ politician who supposedly KNOWS more about the retail business than RETAILERS themselves. She is is attempting to CREATE LAWS that will govern how retail must function.”

Exactly right. This is the slow take over of private business by the government. Communism.

Keep in mind this is not just a California problem. Ca is just the initial testing grounds for unconstitutional laws. If the people of Ca put up with it and it is allowed to stand other states then pass and adopt the same regulations. And because it was passed and accepted in Ca first it will stand as actual legal precedent for the other states.


36 posted on 05/09/2024 6:16:47 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: GOPJ

The job of a grocery store is to sell groceries. It’s not a ‘make work’ situation.


But under socialism, both are considered the job of a business, with the latter considered more important than the former.


37 posted on 05/09/2024 7:40:59 AM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Great comment...


38 posted on 05/09/2024 8:43:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (Takes 6 to 9 months to 'organize' a nationwide protest.This one was organized after October 7th...)
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To: lowbridge

“...ban self-checkout options in grocery stores in an attempt to curb retail theft.”

THIS IS 100% BS!

The DEMOCRATS have ZERO CONCERN about retail theft; this simply IS NOT what is driving this. NOT. AT. ALL.

The DEMOCRAT’S friends in the United Food & Commercial Workers International Union are 100% of the reason behind this proposed legislation.

ASSUMING that Retailers would replace self-check-out 1-to-1 with human cashiers (and that’s a very iffy assumption), self-check-out takes away union jobs, and that is THE ONLY, SINGLE, SOLITARY REASON that ANY Democrat in California would EVER REGISTER THE LEAST WHIT OF A CARE about its existence.


39 posted on 05/10/2024 1:57:14 PM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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