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Why has Macron gone from 'appeasing' Putin to threatening to send troops into Ukraine and drag NATO into WW3? French president envied Boris Johnson's war leadership - and it's a useful distraction from other issues…
The Daily Mail ^ | 03 May 2024 | James Reynolds

Posted on 05/03/2024 11:23:25 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

'I am not ruling anything out,' Emmanuel Macron insisted in an interview published today, pressed on whether France would send troops to Ukraine in its hour of need.

The remarks echo a new tone on Moscow in recent months, the French President reiterating pledges roundly rebuffed by his allies in the US, UK and Germany.

Europe and the United States have now committed more than £130bn to Ukraine in aid but NATO members have stopped short of promising boots on the ground - with Putin still willing to exploit the threat of nuclear Armageddon when prompted.

While Macron has argued his comments have been 'weighted, thought through and measured', they stand in stark contrast to the pre-war perception of the French President as 'appeasing' Russia over Ukraine.

Today, the French leader faces criticism from all sides - polling low at home and agitating allies in Europe over Ukraine. But with the absence of a rival war leader in Western Europe, Macron has found not only a distraction from domestic issues but a new role in facing down a historic foe.

As his rhetoric on the war evolves, experts suggest Macron's poker face could be using 'strategic ambiguity' to unsettle Moscow. But France's allies will be left hoping Putin does not call his bluff.

The French President had a sombre warning for Europeans last week, telling guests at the esteemed Sorbonne University in Paris: 'Our Europe, today, is mortal and it can die. It can die and this depends only on our choices.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: France; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: bidenswar; dugwaydork; escalation; foreverwar; france; killkillkillforpeace; macron; mic; neoconsarefools; tothelastukrainian; ukraine; welfarewar; worldwariii; ww3; zeepersarethrilled
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To: DesertRhino

“”””Nato is not a suicide pact where Estonia can attack someone and everyone else has to join in.””””

Exactly, it is a defensive alliance.


21 posted on 05/03/2024 12:17:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Mariner

See how it works out.

Would work out just dandy because the first thing the French would do is conduct SEAD deep into Russia, creating real air superiority - it would be all downhill for Russia after that.

No more glide bombs, no more bomber launched cruise missiles.


22 posted on 05/03/2024 12:48:46 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

You speak as if you know what you are talking about.

And you don’t.


23 posted on 05/03/2024 12:56:49 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MinorityRepublican

he thinks he can lead his country to a victory by invading Russia?

maybe he should take a quick high school level brush-up class in the history of Europe


24 posted on 05/03/2024 12:57:10 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

25 posted on 05/03/2024 1:00:57 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

ha!
yes, exactly what I was thinking

good one!
thanks


26 posted on 05/03/2024 1:02:42 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: DugwayDuke

This is a reality many don’t seem to grasp.


27 posted on 05/03/2024 1:03:04 PM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists-Satanists: redundant labels.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Why are the Branch Covidians some of the biggest cheerleaders for Xiden and WW3?

If Dictator Xiden does initiate WW3, I won’t support him.


28 posted on 05/03/2024 1:09:49 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Do your American duty: Burn a Ukrainian flag today!)
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To: PGR88
"The only more fake, effeminate, and play-acting politician than him in the West is Canada’s Justin Dildo."

LOL!


29 posted on 05/03/2024 1:15:42 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Williams

LOL. Talk’s cheap. What is Macron going to do about it? His approval rating is in the toilet now, in the 20s. One can only imagine the domestic reaction to French soldiers coming home in body bags.


30 posted on 05/03/2024 1:16:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Reverend Wright

Nope. If a member state STARTS starts or gets involved in a war, the rest of NATO is not obligated.
Furthermore, Article 5 is wildly misconstrued as obligating others to go to war.
It only obligates them as follows.

” Article 5 provides that if a NATO Ally is the victim of an armed attack, each and every other member of the Alliance will consider this act of violence as an armed attack against all members and ***will take the actions it deems necessary*** to assist the Ally attacked.

That can be sanctions, a strongly worded letter, etc.


31 posted on 05/03/2024 1:33:47 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: ansel12

Oh not at all. NATO itself is expansionist, violent, and has attacked Libya and Serbia so far.

But if some NATO nation goes to attack someone, NATO members can stay out of it.


32 posted on 05/03/2024 1:37:04 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: DesertRhino

LOL, which countries did they conquer and make a member?


33 posted on 05/03/2024 1:39:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: MinorityRepublican

‘Our Europe, today, is mortal and it can die. It can die and this depends only on our choices.’
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Yes it can die AND IS DYING. It’s dying from infection by an unchecked invasion of malignant foreign organisms. And RUSSIA has had nothing to do with that… Europe’s own ‘leaders’ have invited that infection.


34 posted on 05/03/2024 1:45:40 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: PIF

“ No more glide bombs, no more bomber launched cruise missiles.”
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Oh you FREEPERS must be drunken from your celebration of your latest success plundering the American people. When can we expect further endless lamentations that that additional $61 billion was inadequate?


35 posted on 05/03/2024 1:50:19 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: DesertRhino

If the Deep State of any of 32 countries manages to engineer a “Gulf of Tonkin” style incident, the terms of the NATO treaty apply.

The problem is when the Deep States and NeoCons of all the other countries are already looking for an excuse to join the war.

Disband NATO now !


36 posted on 05/03/2024 1:51:52 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: MinorityRepublican

NATO War, Biden Still 8%, CV19 Vax Crazy
by Greg Hunter
at USA Watchdog.com

Another step closer to nuclear war with Russia was put forth this week when it was announced that Ukraine would be joining NATO as early as July. Article 5 in NATO basically says all for one and one for all. So, when Russia attacks Ukraine after they join NATO, will all NATO countries go to war with Russia? In 1991, NATO promised that Ukraine would never join the alliance. This is broken promise on the road to perdition.
https://usawatchdog.com/nato-war-biden-still-8-cv19-vax-crazy/


37 posted on 05/03/2024 3:52:09 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: House Atreides

“When can we expect further endless lamentations that that additional $61 billion was inadequate?”

That’s the one that called the $61B “pocket change”.


38 posted on 05/04/2024 3:09:41 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

CrimsonTidegirl wrote: “Why are the Branch Covidians some of the biggest cheerleaders for Xiden and WW3? If Dictator Xiden does initiate WW3, I won’t support him.”

So why do you support Putin who is the biggest threat to world peace?


39 posted on 05/04/2024 5:31:57 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Your dictator biden is the biggest threat to world piece.

I don’t support Putin, nor Zelensky.


40 posted on 05/04/2024 12:44:51 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Do your American duty: Burn a Ukrainian flag today!)
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