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Mike Johnson may have to choose between Ukraine aid and his job
The Economist ^ | April 11 | The Economist

Posted on 04/15/2024 8:24:14 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: Sacajaweau

He is voting against the majority of his own party breaking long held rules and customs.

This is “good”??


41 posted on 04/15/2024 9:46:20 AM PDT by RandFan
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Almost makes you think Zelensky is colluding with Netanyahu.........naaaaah.


No content with US billions already in his pocket, Zelensky now says
he wants US tax dollars to Ukraine “according to the Israeli model”......here’s what he means:

Congressional Research Service
US Foreign aid to Israel
60 page detailed report

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL33222/44

The concerned Israeli lobby made sure Congress is required by law to ensure that U.S. military aid in the Middle East region doesn’t damage Israel’s military superiority over its neighbors. That requirement enjoys broad bipartisan support and has served as a benchmark for ensuring Israel receives robust U.S. support.

Biden keeps gaslighting Americans about the “need” for
American foreign aid tax dollars to Ukraine and Israel.
Here’s why they DONT need it:

About $113.1 billion in tax dollars were authorized in 2022 for Ukraine, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. Most of it–about $67.1 billion–was defense-related. The other $46 billion included:
<><>$26.9 billion for economic support;
<><>$7.9 billion for international disaster assistance;
<><>$6.6 billion in assistance for refugees;
<><>$1.5 billion for assistance for Europe, Eurasia and Central Asia;
<><>plus $3.1 billion for other non-defense spending.

US tax dollars helped Ukraine
<><>pay the salaries of 618,000 educators, 517,000 health workers, and 56,500 first responders
<><>helped sustain critical healthcare services,
<><>helped meet pension responsibilities for 9.8 million people,
<><>assisted 1.3 million internally displaced persons,
<><>provided housing assistance to 4.1 million people,
<><>provided social assistance to 240,000 low-income families
<><>helped subsidize 480,000 persons with disabilities,
<><>bought supplies for farmers,
<><>financed finding markets for small business.


42 posted on 04/15/2024 9:50:55 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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To: RandFan

Reminder...We don’t have the Senate of Biden’s magic pen. Be real...The government has to go on. It can’t be dead in the water.


43 posted on 04/15/2024 9:52:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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“Me, too,” whines Zelensky.


Biden set to sell up to 50 F-15 fighter jets to Israel for $18 billion
Biggest arms sale to Tel Aviv since start of war against Hamas’ Oct 7, 2023 attack
Daily Mail ^ | April 1, 2024 | Nick Allen
Posted on 4/2/2024, 9:49:12 AM by Angelino97

The White House is set to approve an $18 billion arms sale to Israel including several dozen F-15 fighter planes. It would be the biggest arms sale by Washington to Tel Aviv since the start of Israel’s war against Hamas on October 7. The sale has been under consideration since the United States received a formal request in January 2023.

Speeding up the delivery was among the main requests from Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant when he visited Washington last week. Gallant held talks with U.S. officials including Biden’s National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin. The F-15s need to be built and would not arrive in Israel for several years. Israel wants to increase its air power not just to fight Hamas but to deter the threat from Iran and its Lebanese proxy Hezbollah.

The military package includes a large number of F-15 aircraft, aircraft munitions and support services, training, maintenance, and many years of contractor support during the lifecycle of the aircraft, which could be up to two decades. CNN reported that the agreement may include up to 50 F-15s.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...

Zelensky’s a pro at manipulating public opinion to get his greedy hands on our tax dollars.

CASE IN POINT

President Trump mentioned the possibility of turning tax dollar billions for Ukraine into a “loan. “

Rotflol......Zelensky knows that routine. Its already been tried.

Few years back, billions more of our tax dollars to Israel were handed out———designated a “loan.”

But Israel got its lobbies to manhandle Congress.

The battered, bruised Congress sap-happily passed a law turning the “loan” into a “gift.”


44 posted on 04/15/2024 9:52:56 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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To: RandFan

“A relatively obscure congressman thrust into leadership six months ago when the ungovernable Republican majority threw out the former speaker, “

I was not aware the representatives to Congress are there to “be governed” by anyone or thing besides the Constitution.


45 posted on 04/15/2024 11:03:32 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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Well duh, for the same reason Somalia was a critical US interest despite it spending the whole cold war as a Soviet client state. I mean... it MUST be important. I’m sure it must....

And also, as the worlds last National Socialist Reich, Ukraine is like an endangered species or something. I think...


46 posted on 04/15/2024 11:07:03 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: HamiltonJay

Putin is literal Stalin! After finally defeating a weak and fractured Ukraine after year of bloody attrition with inferior Russian gear he’s going to take on Poland!!

At least that’s what the Raytheon employees and various Spooks on the FR want you to think.


47 posted on 04/15/2024 11:09:19 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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“While the European Union and its member countries have contributed considerably to Ukraine’s budget and humanitarian needs...”

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They haven’t contributed anywhere near a level that would lead me to believe that their security depends on it. Their economic capacity rivals that of the US, yet the US has out spent them in providing defense for their own region. That doesn’t tell me they are scared or Russian forces steamrolling across Europe.


48 posted on 04/15/2024 11:20:57 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Re: 23 - interesting.

President Trump is going to put those who want no aid to Ukraine in a box, if he does not explicitly call for no such aid.


49 posted on 04/15/2024 11:29:58 AM PDT by Fury
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What if they give Ukrainians the money and they still collapse militarily in the next 3 to 4 months? They will look pretty stupid. Russia seems to be gathering momentum all along the front line. I think they are getting close to the last Ukrainian. Zelensky is close to having his Steyner moment.
50 posted on 04/15/2024 2:22:34 PM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: AndyJackson

Reagan wasn’t into appeasement so he’ll stand up to Putin by backing Ukraine.


51 posted on 04/15/2024 3:00:25 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: RandFan

It is really quite easy. No Ukraine aid and all is well for the time being.


52 posted on 04/15/2024 3:03:39 PM PDT by dforest
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To: PIF

Neocon hogwash.


53 posted on 04/15/2024 3:05:39 PM PDT by dforest
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To: MinorityRepublican

Reagan was far from being a warmonger like you Zeepers.


54 posted on 04/15/2024 3:07:02 PM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

Reagan would have seen through all the Russian propaganda thats going on right now and he’ll say out loud “The Evil Empire is back!”


55 posted on 04/15/2024 3:15:28 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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>>>>Reagan would have seen through all the Russian propaganda thats going on right now and he’ll say out loud “The Evil Empire is back!”<<<<

Pres. Eisenhower didn’t intervene militarily to save the Hungarian rebels who rose against Moscow in 1956.

Pres. Kennedy didn’t act to stop the building of the Berlin Wall in 1961.

Pres. Johnson didn’t intervene to prevent Moscow’s crushing of the “Prague Spring” in 1968.

Pres. Reagan didn’t act when the Solidarity movement was crushed in Poland in 1981.

Presidents who, during the Cold War, refused to use force in Eastern or Central Europe, in order to avoid a war with the USSR where our country’s vital interests were not imperiled, were proven right.

During 40 years of Cold War, America never regarded Moscow’s control of Ukraine as any threat to our country.

There is not now, and never has been a vital U.S. interest in Ukraine to justify risking a war with Russia.


56 posted on 04/15/2024 4:10:21 PM PDT by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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The Soviets had their forces throughout Eastern Europe during the Cold War.

The Cold War is over. So the Russians have removed their troops from their former satellite states.

But we have to draw the line somewhere. Putin is not going to stop until his nose gets bloodied.

57 posted on 04/15/2024 4:17:40 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

He would say the same about that den of crooks running Ukraine and of course the even worse evil entity out there today, the Biden regime. They make Russia look good.

People are cheesy using Reagan because he would not be happy with anything going on now.


58 posted on 04/15/2024 5:44:38 PM PDT by dforest
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