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Should We Open the Entire Constitution for Changes? (Cherokee Nation votes on an Article 5-like Convention)
Native News Online ^ | March 31, 2024 | Chuck Hoskin

Posted on 04/03/2024 7:40:25 PM PDT by DoodleBob

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I stumbled on this article. This should be bigger news than it is.

Here is a real-life opportunity to see what happens in an Article 5-like situation.

It should be worth watching.

1 posted on 04/03/2024 7:40:25 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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Article 5 conventions only have the power to propose amendments that must be approved by the states in the usual manner.

Period.

But you can’t fear-porn that, so lets pretend the entire constitution can be trashed and rewritten in an Article 5 convention.


2 posted on 04/03/2024 7:43:15 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Um…this is about the Cherokee Nation Constitution. Not the US Federal Constitution.

It’s right there in the first two sentences.


3 posted on 04/03/2024 7:47:57 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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Um... You brought up Article 5 right in your doctored headline.

That was just a mental masturbation thing?


4 posted on 04/03/2024 7:52:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: DoodleBob

Bookmark.


5 posted on 04/03/2024 7:53:36 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (God save the United States!)
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Does this encompass Oklahoma AND North Carolina

North Carolinian Cherokee appear totally sustainable in and of themselves


6 posted on 04/03/2024 7:57:33 PM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteo)
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To: DoodleBob

What we should do is just follow the Constitution.

In today’s deep-state and printed-fiat-money government - any change to the Constitution is guaranteed to be a disaster for freedom and the Republic.


7 posted on 04/03/2024 8:06:01 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Guenevere

This only refers to the “Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma”. There are two other official Cherokee tribes: The Keetowah Band of Oklahoma (who arrived before the Trail of Tears) and the North Carolina Cherokee. The Cherokee Nation is the biggest of the three and the one you hear of the most.


8 posted on 04/03/2024 8:12:18 PM PDT by River Hawk
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Article 5 conventions only have the power to propose amendments that must be approved by the states in the usual manner.

Period.

But you can’t fear-porn that, so lets pretend the entire constitution can be trashed and rewritten in an Article 5 convention.





`zackly.



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9 posted on 04/03/2024 8:19:02 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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He seems to have a pretty good head on his shoulders.

Can anyone think of any particular reason principal chief of the Cherokee Nation, Chuck Hoskin, Jr. can’t run for President of these United States?


10 posted on 04/03/2024 8:30:39 PM PDT by null and void (There’s only one thing that’s for sure. Everyone on all sides a conflict will be happy to lie to you)
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Correct.

https://www.cherokee.org/media/lsufapj1/constitution-of-the-cherokee-nation-1999-online.pdf

Cherokee Nation Constitution of 1999

The Cherokee Nation is not a State of the United States and cannot propose amendments to the U.S. Federal Constitution under Article 5.

11 posted on 04/03/2024 8:51:03 PM PDT by woodpusher
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Um... you said "Here is a real-life opportunity to see what happens in an Article 5-like situation.

This is nothing like an Article V convention. Article V doesn't allow a convention to wholesale rewrite our Constitution the way that the Cherokee Nation constitution apparently does.

-PJ

12 posted on 04/03/2024 8:58:14 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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Cannot speak for the Red Man, but unless we put an end to the Democrats as a legitimate political entity, the changing the Constitution won’t help, as they flat-out IGNORE the present Constitution.


13 posted on 04/03/2024 9:32:05 PM PDT by BobL (A society built on MERIT cannot survive on DEA (ref. South Africa, and now USA))
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They should do like is done with the US Constitution - just ignore the parts you don’t like.

Ref: Joe Biden, Letitica James, Nancy Pelosi, et al


14 posted on 04/03/2024 10:00:58 PM PDT by bigbob
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Yet moron weakness CONservatives could not get their act together when it mattered. I’m not sure they even had 33 states, but regardless republic-nts are stupid and weak and cowardly. When some are ready to actually fight, it will be too late.


15 posted on 04/03/2024 10:58:26 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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To: null and void
Hoskin seems OK. The nation has been flush with covid cash now for these last three years and Chuck and co have been very busy building and giving out trinkets. The covid cash is finally running out and the thrill will simmer down.

The current battles are with the state and particularly with the governor and Hoskin has taken a sometimes unreasonable nationalistic bent. In doing so he has made some unreasonable claims about how well the tribe is doing in law enforcement and cooperation with state and locals. I see not so much. I also see the tribe just sowing seeds of jurisdictional confusion not helping matters. McGirt has been no friend of the state but has raised tribal militancy to highs not seen since the Indians took over Alcatraz.

Who is presidential timber? Surely not everyone and surely we can do much better and not much worse than the current buffoon in the white hut.

I'll be voting no for the Article 5 and in support of term limits.

16 posted on 04/03/2024 11:09:14 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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The North Carolina Cherokee are the ones that didn’t agree to travel The Trail Of Tears to Oklahoma. The Oklahoma Cherokee are the ones that went along to get along. They are two different Cherokee governments. What one does has no effect on what the other does.


17 posted on 04/04/2024 6:12:50 AM PDT by Flint
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For those who still wail about the Trail of Tears..

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1988/02/28/trail-of-tears-death-toll-myths-dispelled/62660437007/


18 posted on 04/04/2024 6:55:52 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Yes!

Some humans ought be declared enslavable and killable.

Enshrine slavery and abortion in one ammendment. Then we can compete with the Chinese as we bring these new immmigrants in and enslave them.


19 posted on 04/04/2024 7:07:44 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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The Cherokee Nation should have their own state, as was promised by the Confederate States of America. The CSA granted the Cherokee citizenship in the CSA (something the USA would not do till 1920). They even had representation in the CSA Congress in Richmond. But the south lost the war and the victorious Federals took a sweet revenge upon the Rebel Native Americans. The highest rank issued to Black Federal troops was Master Sargent. The Highest rank given to Native Americans in the Confederate army was Brigadier General.


20 posted on 04/04/2024 7:09:42 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. )
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