Posted on 04/02/2024 9:42:05 PM PDT by RandFan
Hard to say. But I'm giving him the the benefit of the doubt.
Many Israeli citizens will agree with me and there is plenty of dissent.
They're like our citizens living in NYC and CA.
US/UK defense forces. We have considerable experience from Iraq and Afghan
I wonder how many 12 or 15 year old girls cried and begged for mercy on October 7th as the laughing bearded moslem animals stripped them naked and raped them to death, mutilated them alive, or dragged them away to parade them before the celebrating, cheering and braying population of Gaza?
Now Gaza wants mercy? The hell with that. It should be a free fire zone until they surrender in their underwear with hands up.
Somehow, Hamas is winning the PR war.
Hamas could publicly rape children on international broadcast TV 24/7 and the media plus eurotards and the UN would condemn Israel.
Agreed.
Many of those in NY and CA dont even think Israel should exist!!
It’s a strange situation!
On the other hand I’m supportive of Israel generally.
I just dont have military experience or a hardened attitude to war. I accept that.
Many vets are on here and are total opposite to me. This is where I run into arguments on this topic.
It’s generational I think...
US/UK? Good god, those are the LAST people to get advice from. Desert Storm was full on power and supporting arms, No F’s given. It was a massive air war, bombing downtown, killing everything, battleships shelling, B-52s carpet bombing, and then we unleased a mass of tanks like the world has never seen. That was America’s cold war Reagan military unleashed.
Since then it has been one cluster-F after another. It has been 20 year efforts and a patent refusal to use superior firepower, preferring to kill our soldiers and marines in rifle fights. And we were driven out.
You’re in a fantasy world if you think we can teach them some fancy footwork and they can just do silly SF raids here and there to arrest one “leader” after another.
Too many movies.
That was an all out attack on Israel complete with a 3000 rocket barrage to start it off. That cannot be answered by the faggoty ideas of our pussified generals. All the moslem world is watching... they need to see what happens when you really decide to invade Israel. They need to form a solid idea that THEY never want to be the flavor of the month.
Don't sound like "passport Britons."
I'll wager that these were honest-to-gawd Limeys.
Where are the "Muhammeds" and "Achmeds?" Don't they want to risk their lives, helping their Islamic brethren?
And why no female Brits?
More evidence that Britain still has a long way to go before the White Patriarchy is demolished.
Regards,
The Israelis will never win a PR war. That has never happened in my lifetime except for the Raid on Entebbe. Other than that, never....
So might as well win the real war.
We need to stop fighting if we have no will to use overwhelming force.
Here’s how randfan is pushing the p.r. aspect....
OH the horrors the israeli army is inflicting on the defenseless gazan people...
Gaza’s Al-Shifa hospital devastated in two-week battle
A spokesman for Gaza’s civil defence agency said Israeli forces killed about 300 people in and around the hospital over the two-week operation.
The health ministry in Hamas-ruled Gaza said “the scale of the destruction inside the complex and the buildings around it is very large”.
what randfan would like people to ignore...
Israel said it had battled Palestinian militants inside the Palestinian territory’s largest hospital, killing at least 200 and recovering stockpiles of weapons, explosives and cash.
Daniel Hagari, Israeli army spokesperson, said Israel had “apprehended over 900 individuals suspected to be involved in terror activity”, of which he said “over 500” were “defintely” Hamas or Islamic Jihad militants.
“There are more terrorists in the hospital than patients or medical staff,” he said, adding that there were about 300 patients, doctors and medical staff.
Don’t want hospitals, schools, etc destroyed? don’t have hamas use them as protection from Israel
Fully agree. And even more insane, we should only go to war for actual American interests... not things we find interesting like boutique regime change wars in Libya and Syria, proxy wars like Ukraine with the goal of installing a WEF government in Russia, and god only knows what we are doing in Central Africa.
We could even pay a little more attention to our Founders and to Eisenhower.
I’m not absolving the other side backpacker I already noted your links
I remember the Red Crescent ambulances delivering weapons and terrorists to locations years past.
Well, deal with Hamas and they’ll put you in harm’s way. They do it to their own people who voted them into power.
This demonization of Israel has been going on for over a half-century. There is no “turning against” that anyone who is a left-winger has not already been against.
BTW, the left was doing the same to the USA in Afghanistan and Iraq.
If you go into a war zone, there is the distinct possibility you may end up dead. I’m sorry that happened, but that’s the chance they took.
I would start with the assumption that any western “aid worker” is an intelligence asset for the U.S. or the UK. That isn’t going to be true in every case, but it’s not a bad assumption to make.
Maybe some wise guy painted “USS Liberty” on the roof of the warehouse. :-P
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