Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Fatal vulnerability: Stunned reporter films Ukraine's tank debacle
The Limited Times - News RND News Aggregator ^ | March 18, 2024 | Patrick Mayer

Posted on 03/18/2024 5:37:36 PM PDT by Navy Patriot

The Ukrainian army is losing tank after tank as Vladimir Putin's Russian troops advance.

The example of a Challenger 2 tank is alarming.

Donbass - Little by little they are left behind on the battlefield of Ukraine: Western tanks that the treacherously invaded country received for its defensive battle against Russia.

Weapons for Ukraine: Challenger 2 main battle tanks have major weak points

The inventory of British Challenger 2 main battle tanks is also suffering seriously in the Ukraine war.

According to various media reports, as of mid-March, only seven of the steel giants are still operational.

To put it into perspective: London delivered 14 of the heavy battle tanks to Kiev last year.

However, these have ultimately proven to be too heavy in recent months due to adverse weather.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsrnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: invadersmustdie; killkillkillforpeace; ukraine
This is a non Mainstream Media source so I'm sure there is some misunderstanding, and it is Western tanks sent to Russia that are being lost.

I'm sure all is well!

1 posted on 03/18/2024 5:37:36 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Navy Patriot

They burn like all the others when hit from behind.


2 posted on 03/18/2024 5:39:39 PM PDT by JJBookman (Democrats = Party of Zero)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JJBookman

“They burn like all the others when hit from behind.”

Perhaps, but the extra 20 or so tons may make the UK Amalgamated Steelworkers Union happy, but it does cause them to sink in the mud before they even see combat.


3 posted on 03/18/2024 5:53:02 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Navy Patriot

“...it is Western tanks sent to Russia that are being lost....” being sent to Russia via Ukraine.

I read in a British paper (wish photos) last year that there is now a museum in or near Moscow of foreign tanks and other equipment captured in Ukraine in perfect condition.


4 posted on 03/18/2024 6:17:41 PM PDT by elpadre
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Navy Patriot
Today is the day the Russian tanks went on a suicidal attack (graphic warning)
5 posted on 03/18/2024 6:19:57 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BobL

Ah yes. I remember well the joys of trying to get a tank out of mud pits.


6 posted on 03/18/2024 6:37:55 PM PDT by glorgau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

I like the ones where the drone drops a grenade down the tank’s hatch.

Kaboom!


7 posted on 03/18/2024 6:42:39 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Navy Patriot

“only seven of the steel giants are still operational.

To put it into perspective: London delivered 14 of the heavy battle tanks to Kiev last year.”

7 lost in a year?

Russia has been losing about 100 tanks per month since this invasion began, and replacing them with reconditioned older tanks out of storage.

The only supposedly “new” tanks being produced are T-90M models from a single factory (UralVagonZavod).

Last year (2023) they delivered a grand total of 44, but at least some of them have been shown to have been retrofitted T-90A models, out of the approximately 200 that were in Russian inventory before the 2022 invasion. No T-90A models have appeared on the battlefield in Ukraine. They apparently get some M variant upgrades applied, before they are sent to die.

Russia apparently cannot manufacture whole new tanks yet, or even breech blocks or barrels for their howitzers, because of basic lack of capacity for high strength steel production, which had been decommissioned. Howitzer storage yards have already fully emptied at some large Russian storage sites.

They can crank out lots of Artillery rounds with soft steel, and with explosives and propellants from their plentiful oil and gas, but for major combat platforms like tanks, Artillery, Attack Helicopters and Jets; they are rapidly burning through their inheritance from the old Soviet Union.


8 posted on 03/18/2024 6:56:50 PM PDT by BeauBo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

To be sure they are massacring each other,


9 posted on 03/18/2024 7:07:18 PM PDT by Phoenix8
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Navy Patriot
Another Abrams bits the dust. Lost count of how many of them burned.

.


10 posted on 03/18/2024 7:14:57 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: glorgau

“Ah yes. I remember well the joys of trying to get a tank out of mud pits.”

Geeze, almost forgot that myself!


11 posted on 03/18/2024 8:00:25 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: BobL

You were in a tank unit?


12 posted on 03/18/2024 8:39:59 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Navy Patriot
Anybody who claims these tanks are getting stuck because they're "too heavy" is ignorant. Tanks have lower ground pressure than much lighter wheeled vehicles.

FREE photo hosting by Host Pic.Org - Free Image Picture Photo Hosting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_pressure

These tanks aren't getting "stuck in the mud," they're getting high-sided because they they're being driven down trails with ruts that are too deep because they're too heavily trafficked in the wet. The tanks are getting "beached" because their tub has run up onto the ridge between the rust. High-sided, same as any 4-wheeler on a deeply-rutted road.

The tankers are afraid to drive across open fields for fear of land mines, which they figure they're less likely to encounter on a well-worn trail.

The fact that they're getting high-sided is a foreseeable consequence of driving down a trail with standing water without taking precautions against this very possibility.

It's not the tank's fault that the tank commander is either an idiot or is deliberately disabling his vehicle.

And the reporters who write this drivel are in the same boat. They're either idiots of they're deliberately spreading misinformation.

13 posted on 03/18/2024 8:56:40 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: glorgau
"Ah yes. I remember well the joys of trying to get a tank out of mud pits."

Even more joyful if you break a track while you're unsticking it.

14 posted on 03/18/2024 9:04:11 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Navy Patriot
We need to send them more of our tanks:




15 posted on 03/19/2024 9:02:29 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Albion Wilde
Fortunately, I was not eating or drinking when I read your comment!

I certainly would like to get my hands on the idiot that cloned Abrams.

16 posted on 03/19/2024 10:54:10 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson