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To: Red6

Putin set out to destroy the era of good feelings established by Yeltsin. Putin instituted Soviet nostalgia. Putin had the Neo-Soviet maps made, some including Alaska as part of Russia.

We do tolerate anti-American governments on our border. Yet we have no more a fear of a conventional blitz from Mexico and Russia has no true fear of a blitz from NATO ... just look at the offensive potential of NATO. It is an organized minimalist defensive org. Yet Neo-Soviet aggression has driven even the neutrality-loving Swedes into the arms of NATO. Put that in your pipe and smoke it you fake Texan troll.

You support the murder and brain washing of children so you really are a sicko.


78 posted on 03/17/2024 11:01:11 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Saludemos la patria orgullosos)
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To: Monterrosa-24

No-

No major power accepts another playing on their border.

We were willing to risk a major nuclear war over this very exact issue we are expecting Russia to accept today: https://www.facebook.com/rishibagree/videos/1997-the-only-thing-that-could-provoke-a-vigorous-and-hostile-russian-response-w/1131428724346357/ (and there you have 90 miles of water between us)

We invaded an island 1,280 miles from our border because merely having the Russians build a runway they can use for their bombers and heavy lift assets was to much for us to accept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Grenada A little bit of history not in Wiki: This was financed by the Soviets, the money went through Nicaragua, and Cuban engineers were building it. An island with no real tourism or industry was building a runways capable of accommodating big bombers and transport planes.

Kennedy and Reagan were right!

I do not fault Reagan for invading an island 1,280 miles away at that time.

However, I also do not fault the Russian for being more than a little pissed off at us today. It’s us that wants to expand NATO into former Soviet Republics and Russian border states, who withdrew from the Ballistic Missile Treaty, violated Minsk, tries to violate Montreux, invaded Iraq under false pretenses (Russia aligned), attacked and invaded Syria (formal Russian ally with naval and air bases there since 1970), attacked Libya (Russian aligned), sponsored a coup and tried to overthrow the government in Venezuela (Russian aligned)...

I understand that your idea of patriotism and morality means that no matter what, ones nation is always right. Patriotism = brain off / waive a flag and do what some buffoon in a olive drab T-shirt that not to long ago was playing piano’s with his dick tells you.

Today, how we deal with Taiwan is very different than how we deal with Ukraine, both being in a similar situation. The difference is Russia is weak today, China is powerful. Russia has no economic value to us, in fact they are a competitor and we are trying to gobble up their frontier, while China has a huge economic value to us: they hold US securities, are a major consumer of US products and services, and a major manufacturing base for US HQ’ed firms. So you see a dichotomy in how we deal with these two situations, with China also by far being worse than Russia regards democracy, human rights, all these noble causes we like to throw around (but only when it’s convenient) ...


81 posted on 03/17/2024 11:49:11 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Monterrosa-24

Corrected link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis


82 posted on 03/17/2024 11:52:29 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Monterrosa-24

Lindsey Graham is as much your/Ukraine’s friend as a drug dealer is to someone addicted to their product.

He’s killing you, literally.

The interesting thing about patriotism and nationalism (which I very much think are good concepts to a degree) is that people which get wrapped up into these ideas, believe they alone speak for all, that they know better, that their contradictions, rationalizations for immorality, etc. are somehow justifiable. When you get to that point, you have “tunnel vision.”


83 posted on 03/17/2024 12:06:59 PM PDT by Red6
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