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To: Robert DeLong

Love the personal attacks - shows you have nothing to say except slander.


15 posted on 03/14/2024 9:32:13 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF
Exhibit #1:

More Pro Putin propaganda - it never stops.

Exhibit #2:

Yet you defend Putin, a communist. Go figure.

The first is a personal attack on delta7 who posted the article stating that he is posting pro Putin propaganda, when it absolutely is not propaganda at all, it's the truth. It's just a truth that you want to dismiss, but you offer no counter to prove it's propaganda, other than your personal dismissal, which is just just your opinion. There are several articles who have touched upon the same topic. There are articles that state that Russia has the manpower problem, most written in 2023. This is the most recent one, from The Economist back in Dec. of 2023, but it is not positive:

Ukraine’s army is struggling to find good recruits

The second is a personal attack on wildcard_redneck because you do not support his stance on the conflict. Therefore, you revert to saying he supports a communist, by the name of Putin. Though you are supporting the tyrant, by the name of Biden.

You just fail to see your attacks as being personal in nature.

So I gave you a dose of your own medicine, and you don't like it, and I did make it overtly obvious that it was a personal attack, unlike your unwillingness to overtly state your attack in a personal way, but it's still a personal attack, because you said the word, you.

You offer no arguments whatsoever, you just attack them with your snide little comments, thinking you are clever. But they both are still personal attacks, schmuck.

18 posted on 03/14/2024 10:11:00 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: PIF
So tell me,

—What ever came of the Ghost of Kiev?

—What are we up to for Russian casualties?

—How many thousand tanks have the Russians lost so far?

—How's that counteroffensive going?

—Why aren't there any Ukrainian casualties or material losses in this war? Why is this almost nonexistent in our media?

—When again is Ukraine taking back Crimea in this war?

—Have our Wonder-weapons changed the tide of the war?

—Now that public opinion has shifted is it mere coincidence that stories on the cost of this war have become rare?

—Why are there almost no stories of most of the Leo's being destroyed, most of the M1’s moving into the combat area getting turned into burning hulks? There is video recordings of it all...

—So the Russians blew up the Nordstream pipeline, that's really the most feasible scenario, right? hahaha

—How democratic is a nation where they have killed over 14 opposition political leaders, banned opposition parties, closed radio and newspapers that dare contradict the state narrative, banned HAM radio since you might hear something the state doesn't want you to hear, and canceled future elections?

—How sovereign is a nation entirely subordinate to us?

—Did the guys on Snake Island really fight to the last man?

—Are the Ukrainians really going to hold out for months at the Mariupol iron works? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65155075 Show me a Western article that condemns this and uses the term “terrorism” without quoting the Russians to describe it?

—How is this about human rights if Ukraine itself has a horrible human rights record?

—Isn't it about time for folks to cheer on and write stories about how great it is that there was another entirely “non-terrorist” (our terrorists are freedom fighters) attack in Russia, sponsored by the Ukraine of course?

***What exactly is propaganda in your mind?***

Is it ONLY from the other side? The side you disagree with? Can there be such a thing as truth or objectivity and you do not like it?

***The only propaganda you get in any appreciable amount is from the Ukrainian/US/Euro side. We mass censor the Russians, and if you want their perspective you have to exert effort to get around the great wall of bull$hit we have erected.***

It is Western (US/Euro) media where you get an endless drivel of this: https://en.as.com/en/2022/03/12/latest_news/1647049220_819544.html and folks like you claim anything which contradicts this crap is Putin Propaganda, but you use zero arguments, zero facts to back up your glorious Ukraine is winning assertion, nor do you back your cause of the war, nor your rationalization of why there is some moral calling in helping Ukraine (democracy / sovereignty). ***Your reasoning (if you want to call it that), “I am right and everyone that disagrees is bad and using Putin Propaganda. I do not need any facts or arguments.”***

26 posted on 03/14/2024 1:26:52 PM PDT by Red6
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