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For those who don't remember.... it was Raskin who introduced legislation with Wasserman Schultz in 2022 that would lay the groundwork for the U.S. Justice Department to sue in order to prevent candidates from holding office if they committed insurrection.

Reintroducing the measure would bring the 14th Amendment argument against Trump's eligibility to the House floor.

1 posted on 03/04/2024 9:48:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Doubtful...unless Congress wants a real war...and then hanging from lamp posts..


2 posted on 03/04/2024 9:51:51 PM PST by dpetty121263
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Wouldn’t he have to be formally charged and found guilty of insurrection? That could take awhile.


3 posted on 03/04/2024 9:53:58 PM PST by JudyinCanada (The left is loathsome, beyond anything I could have believed.)
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Getting 2/3rds of the house and senate is going to be a bit@h.
Even withe the neverTrumpers still in Congress.


4 posted on 03/04/2024 9:54:40 PM PST by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjamin Franklin.)
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1) Trump has not been charged, tried or convicted of insurrection
2) Section 3 of the 14th amendment names specific offices barred by the Amendment, President is not one of them.

How complicated is this?


6 posted on 03/04/2024 9:59:36 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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There’s a lot of smack talk about civil war if this or that thing happens.

But I truly believe that President Trump re-elected — followed by a squirrel like Jamie Raskin getting him cancelled with a 14th amendment stunt, and the Supremes going along with it — might indeed touch off a scorched earth CWII.

That would not be a good thing. But it might be better than living under the tyranny that would follow if it is not vigorously opposed.


7 posted on 03/04/2024 10:00:20 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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First, any act of Congress cannot be a bill of attainder (a punitive law against a single subject), nor can it be ex post facto (making something criminal after the act had occurred).

Second, the President is absent from the list of federal offices in the 14th amendment. This clearly supports the SCOTUS ruling that offices that represent single states was the intended scope of the 14th amendment.

Third, anything Congress does must address the limitations of the second point. Congress cannot simply legislate that the President is now included in the 14th amendment. Only another amendment can alter an existing amendment.

Fourth, Congress can pass a law describing exactly which behaviors constitute "insurrection" for purposes of the 14th amendment, perhaps even making them specific to Representatives, Senators, and Electors, but any law will have to pertain to future actions of said people, not past actions.

Fifth, any law that Congress can think of to "ban Trump" from the ballot must be signed by the President. Joe Biden signing a law disqualifying the opposition candidate who is beating him in the polls will not sit well with half the country. THAT may be the spark that ignites a new civil war.

-PJ

8 posted on 03/04/2024 10:01:27 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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LOL!

The Tater would literally have to sign the bill barring his presidential opponent from the ballot.


13 posted on 03/04/2024 10:05:26 PM PST by kiryandil
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No chance this goes anywhere, but it will give the bloviators gist for their bloviating, I guess.


15 posted on 03/04/2024 10:10:33 PM PST by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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These people are obsessed and possessed.


16 posted on 03/04/2024 10:11:17 PM PST by Maudeen (https://www.ThereIsHopeinJesus.com https://www.patburt.com/)
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"Eat yer peas" moment.

-Barry Obama

19 posted on 03/04/2024 10:22:22 PM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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They’re terrified.


21 posted on 03/04/2024 10:32:33 PM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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With no trial or conviction? Then it should immediately be applied to Biden and every other DemonRat who tries to get on a ballot.

The Demons will do the same and there will be no candidates for president ever again.


26 posted on 03/04/2024 11:01:03 PM PST by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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These jerks keep SAYING Trump committed insurrection. To date, there is no proof he committed insurrection.


27 posted on 03/04/2024 11:02:19 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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Look! Raskin is chewing on a bone.

Raskin is a silly little dog.


28 posted on 03/04/2024 11:31:47 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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BTTT


30 posted on 03/05/2024 12:16:03 AM PST by nopardons
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Trump is not covered by the 14th, but they are.


32 posted on 03/05/2024 12:47:34 AM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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“legislation that could bar someone who committed insurrection from holding office.”

Except that Trump didn’t commit insurrection. Never even has been charged with insurrection. These people are so stupid.


37 posted on 03/05/2024 3:14:26 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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“Representative Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat, on Monday said he’s working with colleagues on legislation that could bar someone who committed insurrection from holding office.”

From the 14th Amendment:

“But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.”

In other words, Biden opening the border after Trump closed it can be considered an insurrection, since illegal immigrants are bringing fentanyl and other crimes to the US. And it is all documented. Same can be said for Obama.


39 posted on 03/05/2024 3:20:58 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Trump/Jennifer-Ruth Green in 24)
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“Representative Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat, on Monday said he’s working with colleagues on legislation that could bar someone who committed insurrection from holding office.”

From the 14th Amendment:

“But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.”

In other words, Biden opening the border after Trump closed it can be considered an insurrection, since illegal immigrants are bringing fentanyl and other crimes to the US. And it is all documented. Same can be said for Obama.


40 posted on 03/05/2024 3:21:53 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Trump/Jennifer-Ruth Green in 24)
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I remember.


42 posted on 03/05/2024 3:37:37 AM PST by sauropod (Ne supra crepidam.)
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