Reintroducing the measure would bring the 14th Amendment argument against Trump's eligibility to the House floor.
Doubtful...unless Congress wants a real war...and then hanging from lamp posts..
Wouldn’t he have to be formally charged and found guilty of insurrection? That could take awhile.
Getting 2/3rds of the house and senate is going to be a bit@h.
Even withe the neverTrumpers still in Congress.
1) Trump has not been charged, tried or convicted of insurrection
2) Section 3 of the 14th amendment names specific offices barred by the Amendment, President is not one of them.
How complicated is this?
There’s a lot of smack talk about civil war if this or that thing happens.
But I truly believe that President Trump re-elected — followed by a squirrel like Jamie Raskin getting him cancelled with a 14th amendment stunt, and the Supremes going along with it — might indeed touch off a scorched earth CWII.
That would not be a good thing. But it might be better than living under the tyranny that would follow if it is not vigorously opposed.
Second, the President is absent from the list of federal offices in the 14th amendment. This clearly supports the SCOTUS ruling that offices that represent single states was the intended scope of the 14th amendment.
Third, anything Congress does must address the limitations of the second point. Congress cannot simply legislate that the President is now included in the 14th amendment. Only another amendment can alter an existing amendment.
Fourth, Congress can pass a law describing exactly which behaviors constitute "insurrection" for purposes of the 14th amendment, perhaps even making them specific to Representatives, Senators, and Electors, but any law will have to pertain to future actions of said people, not past actions.
Fifth, any law that Congress can think of to "ban Trump" from the ballot must be signed by the President. Joe Biden signing a law disqualifying the opposition candidate who is beating him in the polls will not sit well with half the country. THAT may be the spark that ignites a new civil war.
-PJ
The Tater would literally have to sign the bill barring his presidential opponent from the ballot.
No chance this goes anywhere, but it will give the bloviators gist for their bloviating, I guess.
These people are obsessed and possessed.
-Barry Obama
They’re terrified.
With no trial or conviction? Then it should immediately be applied to Biden and every other DemonRat who tries to get on a ballot.
The Demons will do the same and there will be no candidates for president ever again.
These jerks keep SAYING Trump committed insurrection. To date, there is no proof he committed insurrection.
Look! Raskin is chewing on a bone.
Raskin is a silly little dog.
BTTT
Trump is not covered by the 14th, but they are.
“legislation that could bar someone who committed insurrection from holding office.”
Except that Trump didn’t commit insurrection. Never even has been charged with insurrection. These people are so stupid.
“Representative Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat, on Monday said he’s working with colleagues on legislation that could bar someone who committed insurrection from holding office.”
From the 14th Amendment:
“But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.”
In other words, Biden opening the border after Trump closed it can be considered an insurrection, since illegal immigrants are bringing fentanyl and other crimes to the US. And it is all documented. Same can be said for Obama.
“Representative Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat, on Monday said he’s working with colleagues on legislation that could bar someone who committed insurrection from holding office.”
From the 14th Amendment:
“But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.”
In other words, Biden opening the border after Trump closed it can be considered an insurrection, since illegal immigrants are bringing fentanyl and other crimes to the US. And it is all documented. Same can be said for Obama.
I remember.