Posted on 03/04/2024 8:33:30 AM PST by cuz1961
Democrats who have spent the last three years labeling former President Donald Trump and other Republicans who questioned the 2020 presidential election results as “insurrectionists”
....now claim they’ll refuse to certify ......a potential Trump victory in November.
(Excerpt) Read more at thenationalpulse.com ...
If political conditions are such that Trump wins then they won’t be in charge to refuse to certify anything.
They really want CW-II.
Bring it, Obamaholes, bring it.
You and your types live in cities.
We and our types live where food, power, water and materials are generated.
This will be interesting, but at least it’ll end with your end.
Well, now that the Supreme Court has unanimously ruled that Trump is eligible, this entire scenario is nonsense. The only possible way that Democrats could deny Trump the presidency by failing to certify his win, is by engaging in an act of insurrection themselves. Unlike what happened on January 6, 2021, this would be an actual insurrection against the Constitution of the United States, since it is abundantly clear that whether they like Trump or not, he is eligible to be president of the United States, and would, in fact, be so if elected by the people of this country.
Ditto for Joe Biden, or any other Democrat, for that matter. The rules in the Constitution are quite clear, and until the last few years of Democrats not recognizing election results and plainly cheating to “win” wherever and whenever possible, everything went quite smoothly. I would expect that if it is clear that Biden, or any other Democrat won legitimately, that Republicans would be unhappy, but would do the right thing. Likewise, the entire nation expects the Democrats to do the same.
When they perceive it works for them.
Good thing there's nothing in the Constitution granting Congress the power to "certify" anything.
They COUNT THE VOTES in a public Joint Session to avoid concerns about back room wheeling and dealing. THAT'S ALL THEY DO.
Now, Congress can NOT COUNT a State' EVs, or some of them, by a complicated process (also public), but this "certification" crap has been driving me crazy since 1/6/21.
The President-elect is DETERMINED by public counting of the votes and he can take the oath of office at any time in front of any official permitted to administer oaths, and once he's done THAT, he takes office at noon on January 20, automatically.
People here seem to think that an Act of Congress must be transmitted to the Chief Justice to allow him to swear in the new President, but that's all Fantasyland.
According to this decision they are going to have to pass enabling legislation first.
I thought this was to close the door on the certification arguments in the future:
The new provisions also ensure only one slate of electors makes it to Congress after Trump and his allies unsuccessfully tried to create alternative slates of electors in states Biden won. Each governor would now be required to sign off on electors, and Congress cannot consider slates submitted by different officials. The bill creates a legal process if any of those electors are challenged by a presidential candidate.
Remember also Hollywood liberals made a video to encourage electors to “vote their conscience” instead of Trump back in 2016. I don’t remember any of those folks being charged in Georgia with committing criminal acts.
Please point me to Article II, Amendment XII, or the Electoral Count Act where Congress is granted the power to "certify" a Presidential election as a condition of the new President taking office.
The utter hypocrisy is ASTOUNDING these people are truly mentally deranged!! For the last four years we have heard NOTHING but insurrection, insurrection, insurrection YET now these bastards say THEY won’t certify the election OMG!!! They amazing thing is they do it with a straight face!!!
“…now claim they’ll refuse to certify ...“
Ok have it your way.
So they perceive actions taken were an insurrection, and believe the proper response would be insurrection.
The perceived action was never adjudicated as such. The actual action proposed by the Left would be. The crime is treason, the punishment needs to be severe.
Sounds kind of insurrection-y.................
Could open the cartridge box.
Today is a different day.
if that ne so, they’d best move their bedroom into their office, and say goodbye to their families, and never leave the building, for anyone to catch them on the street!
The ruling by the SC today covered that issue. They can NOT use the 14th amendment to bar Trump from taking office if he wins the election. 5-4 ruling.
Empty threat, they don’t have the stones to light that match
It’s not sedition as long as the cowardly Republicans keep bending over
From the article:
“ If the U.S. Supreme Court does not clearly rule against the Colorado court’s decision, it leaves open the door for Congressional Democrats to attempt to block the certification of the 2024 presidential election on the grounds that Trump is ineligible under the insurrection clause.”
Well, the Supreme Court was unequivocal in its decision announced today. Trump is eligible.
They would have to certify the electoral college votes if he wins. I think they’ll continue to try to make sure he doesn’t win. It’s just that easy. They cheat, because they think it’s the right thing to do.
The US House of representatives does not certify anything with respect to the election of the US president. Each state certifies their own election. All the federal congress does is add up the results by state and publish the final result.
12th Amendment
Section 1
Function and Selection
Clause 3 Electoral College Count
The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall choose from them by Ballot the Vice President.
They cannot not count the electoral votes and determine the winner or they have violated the Constitution.
wy69
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