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I’d rather be caffeinated than depressed with $6’: Young Americans are rejecting Dave Ramsey’s financial advice — here’s why they say they’re ‘not willing to do anything to get out of debt'
moneywise via msn ^ | 2/26/4 | Story by Serah Louis

Posted on 02/25/2024 10:47:42 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

ave Ramsey has fervently preached financial advice to Americans for decades — but younger generations are now slamming the white-bearded radio host for offering counsel that doesn’t quite account for the current cost-of-living crisis.

One frothy example is Ramsey’s vociferous renunciation of the daily cuppa Joe. In a 2021 blog post, he claims your coffee habit could be costing you $766 a year, and suggests folks should put those funds toward paying their your student debt, their investments or even a plane ticket.

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To: irishjuggler
How much, on average, does it cost annually to drink Starbucks coffee on a daily basis? Maybe $2,000? I can probably drink Folgers instant (which is damned good coffee, IMO) for approx. $40 per year.

My wife makes a 12 cup pot of Maxwell House every day at about 40 cents/pot plus the cream/sugar/sugar substitute about another 20 cents.

Even if my numbers are 50% low it's still is no where close to a dollar a day for 12 cups of freshly brewed coffee.

I personally don't care what other people do with their own money as long as they are not being subsidized by me and my tax dollars.

101 posted on 02/26/2024 6:53:48 AM PST by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: SamAdams76

You can always get a note from your doctor that says that you need a HOT TUB to treat your bad back/disk problem or something that would benefit from hydrotherapy treatment.

Just make sure you keep all your receipts and the doctors note recommending the treatment. In case you get audited.


102 posted on 02/26/2024 6:54:52 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: cherry
Aw come on, don't you want to convert your 20% cap gains to regular income? /s

Only max out your before tax accounts to the tune of the matching provision, if there is any. Put the rest in after tax accounts and leave them alone. Avoid rebalancing where you have to pay taxes on any gains until much later. Up and down the market will go, you probably aren't good enough to time it. Follow the advice of Bogle and Buffet.

103 posted on 02/26/2024 6:57:58 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Adder
Costco whole bean coffees....depending on brand like Peets or Lavazza [! when they have it...] can be had for about $13 for 2lb when on sale...less if you buy Kirkland brand.

Yep. I normally go for the Columbian or the House Blend (Costco-rebranded Starbucks), whichever's on sale. Tried the San Francisco Bay French Roast last trip - wheeeeee! Octane rating too high for me - back to Columbian.

Bought a OXO grinder and French press carafe from Amazon. The carafe fills up my 2 travel mugs, with a splash left over for that pre-sugar and whipping cream jolt.

104 posted on 02/26/2024 7:03:57 AM PST by AF_Blue (My decision-making skills closely resemble those of a squirrel when crossing a road)
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To: cherry

—> because they are never truly yours...the govt taxes you when you take it out and when you have to take some out to pay property tax or other bills you income goes up and then you don’t qualify for anything like stimulus, or property tax relief....

100%

There are permanent tax breaks to use.

Why settle for deferring to ordinary income (highest taxed category of income) later??????

Most people never frame that thought.

Congratulations!🏆


105 posted on 02/26/2024 7:08:13 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: DugwayDuke

—> And if that means forgoing employer matching....

Contribute just enough to capture the match, then invest the remaining amount outside


106 posted on 02/26/2024 7:11:47 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: MachIV
McDonalds use to be good. It is still drinkable but has an off taste to it now in my opinion.

I've noticed that too. McDonald's and 7-Eleven used to be my go-to coffee stops. Haven't been to a 7-Eleven though since I retired.

107 posted on 02/26/2024 7:13:43 AM PST by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: FLT-bird
Yep.

Costco Executive Membership Visa is a VERY good option if you are able to use the Costco gas station regularly: 4% Visa cash back for gas (from anywhere), plus the savings on the price of gas at Costco, about $0.20/gal for me, pays for the Costco membership, with change back. 1-4% Visa cash back for purchases anywhere, plus 2% Executive Membership cash back for purchases at Costco.

And, as you stated, the account MUST BE PAID IN FULL EVERY MONTH for this to be effective.

108 posted on 02/26/2024 7:14:48 AM PST by AF_Blue (My decision-making skills closely resemble those of a squirrel when crossing a road)
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To: RomanSoldier19

They’re in for a whole world of hurt - now that Biden is paying off their student debt - they think he’s going to pay off their credit card bills as well (and he will if not stopped).


109 posted on 02/26/2024 7:29:19 AM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: RomanSoldier19

LOL, I see this coffee habit with the young in my own family - daily trips to Starbucks or another equally expensive coffee joints- including on the weekends.

I was given a Nespresso as a gift a few years ago - the pods are around $1/each if you subscribe, which is what I do - and the quality IMO, is far superior to Starbucks.


110 posted on 02/26/2024 7:31:56 AM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Too many people, spending too much money and using too much credit on too many things they don’t need. Vacations to Bora Bora , 100,000 dollar pickup trucks are an example. That’s my advice, free of charge.


111 posted on 02/26/2024 7:39:09 AM PST by MGunny ( )
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To: Buttons12

If you are 55 plus, senior coffee at McDonald’s is $1


112 posted on 02/26/2024 7:54:03 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: RomanSoldier19

I get all my financial advice from “talk show hosts” /s


113 posted on 02/26/2024 8:08:37 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: RomanSoldier19

Dave Ramsey, a waste of air and space.


114 posted on 02/26/2024 8:09:12 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: RomanSoldier19
Because they know the US government will cancel their debt for votes.

They are evil. Not stupid.

115 posted on 02/26/2024 8:12:09 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

aMorePerfectUnion wrote: “Contribute just enough to capture the match, then invest the remaining amount outside.”

that works depending upon the details of the match and the details of the person investing.


116 posted on 02/26/2024 8:13:40 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: irishjuggler

our solution was this (plus a few accessories):

https://www.breville.com/us/en/products/espresso/bes878.html?sku=BES878BSS1BUS1

espresso beans from Boyers at Sam’s Club warehouse ...

as many instant lattes as desired whenever desired and no travel or delivery costs

paid for itself in two months ...

(btw, the price of this machine varies quite a lot ... for some reason, breville puts this machine on sale right before christmas ... i think we paid $600 for this one a couple of years ago)


117 posted on 02/26/2024 8:14:52 AM PST by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: RomanSoldier19

I don’t blame them. There is zero guarantee that the government isn’t going to swoop in and raid everyone’s savings accounts and/or retirement accounts. In fact every day that passes this becomes more and more likely. Best bet is real estate. They actually have to have real people come out to seize that and not just press a button.


118 posted on 02/26/2024 8:16:40 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DugwayDuke
cherry wrote: “if I knew then what I know now, I would advise young people to NOT donate to their retirement accts because they are never truly yours...the govt taxes you when you take it out and when you have to take some out to pay property tax or other bills you income goes up and then you don’t qualify for anything like stimulus, or property tax relief....” And if that means forgoing employer matching....

That's the ONLY reason to do it...it's free money on the matching.

119 posted on 02/26/2024 8:18:12 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

How about “If you are unwilling to pay your employees sufficiently, you don’t buy another yacht?”


120 posted on 02/26/2024 8:27:28 AM PST by nonliberal (Z.)
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