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More Russian soldiers have likely died seizing Avdiivka than in the entire Soviet-Afghan war, ISW says
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Posted on 02/25/2024 6:14:35 PM PST by dennisw

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To: Petrosius; All

“How many times is this Russian lie going to be repeated? “


Donetsk was repeatedly shelled from Avdiivka from 2014 until a few days ago.

Of course, the Ukrainians claimed the Russians were shelling their own city.

Just like they blew up their own pipeline, bombed their own bridge, shelled their own nuclear reactor and blew up the dam that flooded their side of the river !


41 posted on 02/25/2024 7:54:26 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: dennisw
https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

Russian casualties in Ukraine.
Mediazona count, updated 44,654
Russian casualties corroborated by publicly available data as of 15 February
+ 1,194
last two weeks

Mediazona, in collaboration with BBC News Russian service and a team of volunteers, continues gathering information on the Russian military casualties in Ukraine. The figures we provide are sourced from publicly available information, including social media posts from family members, local media coverage, and official statements from local authorities

42 posted on 02/25/2024 7:55:59 PM PST by Kazan
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To: dennisw

Haven’t seen a second of video of this war!


43 posted on 02/25/2024 8:04:02 PM PST by 100%FEDUP
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To: dennisw

Haven’t seen a second of video of this war!


44 posted on 02/25/2024 8:04:03 PM PST by 100%FEDUP
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To: dennisw

“likely”

MSN needs to come up with a story about Ukraine again. Now it’s about some people who guess how many Russian troops died.


45 posted on 02/25/2024 8:05:23 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
They pound, pound, pound with artillery (or artillery and bombs,

Bombs, the infantries best friend when it comes to heavily fortified positions. The graph will show a spike in Feb., but nothing like if there hadn't been any bombing. Seems to be a lot less casualties after the bombs start to drop,

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BBC Mediazone Russian casualties in Ukraine. Mediazona count, updated

46 posted on 02/25/2024 8:05:28 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Reverend Wright
Of course, the Ukrainians claimed the Russians were shelling their own city. Just like they blew up their own pipeline, bombed their own bridge, shelled their own nuclear reactor and blew up the dam that flooded their side of the river!

Yes, those Russians do crazy things. And the Ukrainians have lost only 31,000 troops. Just ask any of our collection of high IQ Zeeper armchair warrior military strategists. Everyone else is lying.


47 posted on 02/25/2024 8:06:35 PM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: dennisw
Vlad the Impaler could care less how many Russians he sends to their deaths in Ukraine. Via Vlad’s tactics of human waves, meatgrinder attacks on Ukrainians positions.

Are you on someone's payroll that has very deep pockets? Why keep posting this stuff? Just make yourself feel better by sending all your money to Zelensky personally. It will probably be more personally satisfying.

48 posted on 02/25/2024 8:07:14 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: BenLurkin
The Ukraine has only lost 31,000 guys in the entire war.

I heard that zElensky misspoke, and it was only 3,100.

49 posted on 02/25/2024 8:07:21 PM PST by kiryandil
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To: dennisw

“Ukrainian military officials estimate...”

Thanks for the laugh!!!!


50 posted on 02/25/2024 8:07:21 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: icclearly
they sure don't need any more of our money

Our money?
51 posted on 02/25/2024 8:08:55 PM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: TexasFreeper2009
None of this makes any sense.

The US got all bent out of shape about Russian missiles in Cuba.

None of that makes any sense to me.

52 posted on 02/25/2024 8:09:25 PM PST by kiryandil
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To: Yo-Yo

“Ukraine has a population of 43 million.”

Actually HAD a population of 43M. Russia has now liberated about 10M, another 5M fled, mostly to Europe, and at least 1M can no longer fight due to battlefield injuries/deaths.

So, closer to 27M (although that may also be optimistic!).


53 posted on 02/25/2024 8:09:29 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Russia is already one of the largest geographic countries in the world.. why do they need MORE land? the cities have been destroyed and the people have been killed or fled. What is the point? more land? None of this makes any sense.”

Prior to the war, Putin listed 4 points that he wanted taken care of in Ukraine, and seizing land for Russia was NOT one of them. After the Neocons started the war, then objectives change as Russian costs go up - so, yes, Russia will have a nice new chunk of real estate when this war ends, probably this year if Jan and Feb are any clue.


54 posted on 02/25/2024 8:12:37 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: Petrosius
Russia says stopping the years-long shelling of Russian speaking people is one excuse.

How many times is this Russian lie going to be repeated?


Here are more lies from Human Rights Watch, International Red Cross, Amnesty International, OSCE, OCHA, and UNICEF:

Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians July 24, 2014
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/24/ukraine-unguided-rockets-killing-civilians

Ukraine: Horror of civilian bloodshed in indiscriminate attacks February 2, 2015
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/02/ukraine-horror-civilian-bloodshed-indiscriminate-attacks/

Ukraine: Donetsk residents struggle for survival Februry 11, 2015
https://www.icrc.org/en/document/ukraine-donetsk-residents-struggle-survive

Civilian Casualties in Eastern Ukraine 2016 September 2017
https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/a/a/342121.pdf

The long and dangerous path to school in eastern Ukraine September 20, 2017
https://www.unicef.org/stories/long-and-dangerous-path-school-eastern-ukraine

Conflict-related civilian casualties in Ukraine, March 2020 April 9, 2020
https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/conflict-related-civilian-casualties-ukraine-march-2020


55 posted on 02/25/2024 8:16:26 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Reverend Wright

“Donetsk was repeatedly shelled from Avdiivka from 2014 until a few days ago. Of course, the Ukrainians claimed the Russians were shelling their own city.”

He’s TROLLING our site, stating things he CLEARLY knows is FALSE, as in this case. It’s a wonder JR puts up with crap like that.


56 posted on 02/25/2024 8:17:00 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: SaxxonWoods

This war is a competition for the resources of the Ukraine (its grain and its industries) between the nascent Fourth Reich and the resurgent Russian Empire. Both want what the Ukraine has. Both want it bad enough to kill for it.


57 posted on 02/25/2024 8:23:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

I doubt that it’s that low, especially given the shock attacks at the beginning of the war. There’s also a beachhead across a river that is being used as a meat grinder against the Ukranians by the Russians.

That said, the Ukranians don’t have the troops to lose and they don’t have the force multiplication doctrines to really re-take territory.


58 posted on 02/25/2024 8:29:19 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: MeganC

Tick...Tick...Tick...February 29th is approaching, Megan.


59 posted on 02/25/2024 8:33:43 PM PST by Kazan
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To: dennisw

And, you’re supporting Comrade Biden and a guy that plays the piano with his penis.


60 posted on 02/25/2024 8:35:02 PM PST by Kazan
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