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New York Judge Just Says 'No' to Pee Tests for Concealed Carry Applicants
Bearing Arms ^ | 2/22/24 | Cam Edwards

Posted on 02/22/2024 5:04:29 PM PST by CFW

Even though New York's discretionary "may issue" laws were ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 2022's Bruen decision, some licensing authorities in the state are still using some awfully subjective criteria to determine whether or not an applicant will receive a concealed carry permit.

In Nassau County, for instance, applicants must submit a list of all former and current social media accounts used within the past 3 years, so police can pore over the content for evidence of "good moral character", along with a notarized statement attesting to any minors that live full or part-time with the applicant as well as the name and contact information of your "current spouse or domestic partner and any other adults residing with you, including adult children."

Along with the paperwork, Nassau County Police Commissioner Patrick Ryder also requires every applicant to submit to a urinalysis test to prove they're drug-free, even though that isn't required under New York law. Nassau County resident Joseph Kamenshchik sued to challenge some of these provisions in January of last year, and this week New York Supreme Court Justice James P. McCormack granted Kamenshchik at least partial relief by granting an injunction against several aspect of the county's licensing scheme.

"“Forcing an applicant to submit to urinalysis, in essence, requires them to give up their Fourth Amendment rights against unlawful searches and seizures to exercise their Second Amendment rights,” State Supreme Court Justice James McCormack wrote in his decision."

(Excerpt) Read more at bearingarms.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; constitution; newyork; ny; urinetest
I can't believe this was even considered, much less put into writing as a requirement.
1 posted on 02/22/2024 5:04:29 PM PST by CFW
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To: CFW

It’s New York. Commies got to commie.


2 posted on 02/22/2024 5:08:55 PM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: CFW

Alice’s Restaurant movie (1969) getting urine samples at the Army Induction Center physical:
Arlo Guthrie: [unable to fill his urine-sample jar):
“Anybody got some to spare?”


3 posted on 02/22/2024 5:11:18 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windowdirecs and rattle your walls.)
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To: CFW

SCOTUS needs to start slapping these jurisdictions down hard, including the State Legislatures and Governors who try it. They did it with voting rights. They can do it with 2nd Amendment rights.

L


4 posted on 02/22/2024 5:12:01 PM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: CFW

Why are people and businesses still in NY. They get what they deserve for staying. May they rot in hell.


5 posted on 02/22/2024 5:17:28 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Lurker

They need to start fining them multi-million dollars for every day they infringe on rights.


6 posted on 02/22/2024 5:18:00 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: CFW

How about pee tests to run for elected office?

Or work as a government employee?

What, no?

Looks like Nassau County Police Commissioner Patrick Ryder is SOL.

Too bad, just about anyplace would benefit by dumping half of the local government employees and ALL of the LEOs that dream up this BS.

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7 posted on 02/22/2024 5:33:18 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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“They need to start fining them multi-million dollars for every day they infringe on rights.”

Who would fine them?


8 posted on 02/22/2024 5:47:40 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: CFW

If we aren’t going to piss politicians, “judges” and “da media”, we have no business pissin’ Concealed Carry Applicants.


9 posted on 02/22/2024 5:59:07 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (John Oliver is a racist liberal biatch.)
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To: for-q-clinton

Exactly, anyone foolish enough to do business in New York needs to get out before it’s too late.


10 posted on 02/22/2024 6:18:20 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: CFW

This is just downright disgraceful.


11 posted on 02/22/2024 6:19:12 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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If only NY put convicted criminals through this same goat rope there would probably be little crime.


12 posted on 02/22/2024 6:24:03 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Guns don't kill people, Democrats do. )
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To: TLI

Urine tests are mandatory for many government jobs. Have been for more than 30 years.

CC


13 posted on 02/22/2024 6:37:22 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: TexasGator
"“They need to start fining them multi-million dollars for every day they infringe on rights.”

Who would fine them?"

And, where would the money go?

14 posted on 02/22/2024 7:26:53 PM PST by jackibutterfly (We have a God Who loves us, and there's nothing we can do about it. Yes!!)
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