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Russian blitz forces NATO troops to "secretly join" Ukraine's fight; disguised as "mercenaries."
Hindustan Times ^ | 02/19/2024 | Ukn

Posted on 02/21/2024 11:08:54 AM PST by Red6

Russia has made an explosive claim about NATO's involvement in the Ukraine war. Moscow claimed that NATO troops, disguised as mercenaries, are operating in Ukraine. The claim has been made by the chief of the main operational directorate of the Russian general staff, Colonel General Sergey Rudskoy. He said that NATO troops control multiple launch rocket systems and air defences in Ukraine. The startling statement comes as the Ukrainian army is unable to defend its territory. In the latest blow, the Ukrainian military lost control over Avdiivka. Watch this report to learn more.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; France; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: eussr; fakenews; fourthreich; garbage; killkillkillforpeace; nato; neoconsvotedbiden; psychomaximus; russianpropaganda; uketards; ukraine; war; zelenskyworshippers
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To: Red6

“The financial incentives will be huge.

In Iraq we used Blackwater, Triple Canopy and Aires.

Back then (I had friends that did this) they were paying I believe $150k and that was 20 years ago!”

Pretty pathetic to claim yourself to part of “we” when supposedly advocating against NATO.

More glaring is referring to Blackwater and other Iraq-era PSF companies as mercenaries. Go talk to a State Department official about these subjects.

Are Secret Service details “mercenaries” when they operate in a conflict zone? Probably to you....


41 posted on 02/21/2024 1:51:46 PM PST by Justa
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To: kiryandil

Macron had a fit because the Russians killed French civilians. That’s what they do best, as the apartment buildings and blown up farmhouses in Ukraine attest.


42 posted on 02/21/2024 2:13:30 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: ansel12

There is a difference.

Wagner is a mercenary organization just like we have, in fact we have multiple.

The difference here being is that these folks are still under contract with the US, Polish, etc. government as an enlisted or commissioned officer pretending to be a mercenary so that we can fight a war with our troops and lie to the public that we don’t have forces on the ground fighting there.


43 posted on 02/21/2024 3:18:08 PM PST by Red6
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To: Red6

You are ridiculous with that nonsense.


44 posted on 02/21/2024 3:32:22 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

We have no equivilent to this
A mercenary force of cold hard men.
Dogs of war.


45 posted on 02/21/2024 3:52:17 PM PST by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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To: Red6

“Russian blitz forces NATO troops to “secretly join” Ukraine’s fight; disguised as “mercenaries.””

By far, the WORST-KEPT secret in the war, so far.

By the way, my sources tell me that the Russians have the bodies of NATO soldiers (disguised as ‘mercenaries’) who didn’t do well in Avdeevka. Probably not the SMARTEST idea for the Neocons to send them there, considering what was coming.


46 posted on 02/21/2024 4:02:07 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: ansel12

There are literally hundreds of names of fake firms we set up and then pay for these sort of operations.

Google “silvercorp Venezuela.”

Also a story barely covered in our MSN.

Of course the government denies everything when things go to $hit.


47 posted on 02/21/2024 4:38:16 PM PST by Red6
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To: Red6

You just keep spewing ignorant nonsense, no wonder you could never even respond with your world-respected sources about your post-one claims.

You live in a fantasy of internet fantastics.


48 posted on 02/21/2024 4:47:54 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

What we do know is the Russian is hiring mercenaries from all over the world to feed their meat market, and yet this is some kind of a story?


49 posted on 02/21/2024 5:29:11 PM PST by blitz128
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To: ansel12

I can prove to you that we have done these things before.

I can prove to you that French NATO (Foreign Legion) troops have died in Ukraine.

You have the Pentagon authorizing combat pay for Ukraine:
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/27/us-troops-in-ukraine-can-now-earn-hazard-pay/ obviously because no US troops are there.

And the US government (watching the news closely) does not come out directly and deny this, only through their media outlets they influence try to obfuscate things.

And what’s your counter argument?


50 posted on 02/22/2024 7:11:46 AM PST by Red6
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To: blitz128

Not the point.

And you know this.

Dishonest debates are pointless.

We are using NATO service members disguised as mercenaries so that we can lie about not having troops engaged in combat against Russia.

At this point, you have NATO directly fighting Russia. If Russia targets Western targets as in Warsaw etc. that is fully in their right.


51 posted on 02/22/2024 7:20:48 AM PST by Red6
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To: Red6

That post says it all.

You think that our people at the embassy in danger of bombing and missile attacks from Russian forces being allowed the combat pay ‘proves’ your nutty claims about NATO troops fighting in Ukraine.


52 posted on 02/22/2024 7:50:24 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: JonPreston

Why not?

What war really means has been lost in today’s generation.

Lots of boys need to die and wealth destroyed so we can relearn that lesson.

War becomes undesirable when there is a personal cost (death and destruction) and today people do not feel that, yet.

It’s obvious that there is a desire for this. We are creating this disaster, pretending to be virtuous, and heading right into ever greater death and destruction. Maybe it’s just an innate human characteristic, just like boys playing cowboy and Indians or whatever the modern PC version of that is.


53 posted on 02/22/2024 9:58:15 AM PST by Red6
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To: ansel12

Ah yes,

Just embassy Marines... Glad you believe that.

Did you Google “silvercorp Venezuela?”

When the preponderance of evidence points in a certain direction but you don’t want to accept what that is, that’s called “blind faith.”

But it’s understandable. People tie their own value and self identity to their nationality, and while I also tend to believe that nationalism is healthy to a degree and the best way to organize a society around, it can cause people to put on blinders.


54 posted on 02/22/2024 10:07:08 AM PST by Red6
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To: Red6

You haven’t even read the article you posted.

Red6, you don’t seem to pay attention to anything very deeply.


55 posted on 02/22/2024 11:43:05 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

You’re extremely predictable.

When out of arguments you go personal.

NATO now has people still under contract with their national defense forces “hiding under the guise of being a mercenary” fighting against Russians.

We are again “lying and cheating” and this is an escalation to the conflict.

What’s hard to understand?

Or is everything we do, automatically right because it’s us?


56 posted on 02/22/2024 12:30:20 PM PST by Red6
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To: Red6

You keep posting your own imaginings and untrue claims, look at your first post on the thread, or look at post 50, and posts in between, you just make things up.


57 posted on 02/22/2024 12:39:47 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Red6

Prove it, what is provable is Russians are using mercenaries from all over the world

Please please
Please use “wristwatch” tucker as a reference to this claim


58 posted on 02/22/2024 12:53:39 PM PST by blitz128
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To: ansel12

Tell me,

Are you one of those well informed people that thought Ukraine was winning, until they weren’t?

That Ukraine’s counter offensive was successful, until they wasn’t?

Denied or minimized the Nazi ideology issue when that news broke?

Believed the bogus Russian casualty reports?

Thought our “wunderwaffen” will turn the war?

Or was in awe about the Ghost of Kiev?

Or keeps talking about democracy in Ukraine, where they close radio stations they don’t like, ban opposition parties, cancel the elections, outlaw ham radio, are involved in about 15 targeted political assassinations?

Or are you one of those that keeps talking about sovereignty and Ukraine as we choose their key leaders, manage their finances...

Which of those did you strongly feel/believe in?

Keep watching your factual news and onward Christian soldier, for democracy, human rights, sovereignty and world peace!

We need war so we can have peace: https://www.kxnet.com/news/top-stories/the-us-is-presently-involved-in-15-shadow-wars-heres-where-and-why/ (this isn’t even close to complete!)

Two major shifts happened, the Cold War ended and 9-11. Today we find ourselves all over the planet, (((not to defend ourselves.)))

We once were the good guys. Wars and conquest (Libya, Syria, Venezuela, Iraq) for money seldom make you a good guy when history judges you.


59 posted on 02/22/2024 1:20:48 PM PST by Red6
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To: blitz128

Tucker is actually one of the few that presents the other side.

Simply creating an echo chamber of ideas you agree with and claiming everything else is “enemy propaganda” that needs censored leads to war like we have today.

Maybe a better informed public and one that cares would have thought twice about leaving the Ballistic Missile Treaty, lying about NATO East expansion, violating Minsk. These things were not even truly discussed once our entire MSM took on a single narrative in 2021.

But you tell me, was it worth it: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-holding-talks-with-biden-adviser-says-2021-12-09/

Is America wealthier, safer or freer today?

Is Ukraine better off today?

Great doing!


60 posted on 02/22/2024 1:32:22 PM PST by Red6
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