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Going maskless during COVID-19 emergency isn’t a free-speech right, court rules
State of the Union ^ | Feb 9, 2024 | Andrew Rodriguez

Posted on 02/09/2024 10:25:34 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

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To: Clutch Martin

The question becomes “is government overreach violating your God given rights?”

“So I’m sitting is a standing car and get ticketed for not wearing a seatbelt”

“I’m cruising down the highway enjoying the wind past my helmetless head, and get ticketed for no helmet.”

I show my minor daughter “British Teeth” saying this is why I take you to dentist.

So what should take precedence? Personal responsibility or Government control? Conservatives say personal, libs say government.


21 posted on 02/10/2024 12:22:20 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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22 posted on 02/10/2024 12:32:42 AM PST by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGA-A)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Not wearing a mask communicates the fact that mask pores are 160 microns wide and virus particles are 1.3 microns.wide and wearing masks served only to instil fear to help sell a deadly product.


23 posted on 02/10/2024 12:35:33 AM PST by Antioch (Against stupidity even the Gods struggle in vain…)
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To: Salamander

How stupidly we all followed something they didnt believe themselves


24 posted on 02/10/2024 1:34:19 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: oldplayer

not so sure about that. Masks hide facial expressions which is part of overall communication


25 posted on 02/10/2024 2:06:21 AM PST by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I don’t disagree, it is a personal choice, a lot of the ongoing argument borders on arguing to people who have made a personal choice and denigrating that personal choice.

See somebody wearing a mask and calling them out for wearing a mask when it’s a personal choice it’s either being argumentative or authoritarian over what would you consider to be unacceptable behavior.

As an example. in Japan in the 60s the ‘70s and the eighties and people donned masks (and still do) because they wish to as a preventative measure. And the prevention is for a myriad of things they personally consider to be a hazard to their wellbeing. I’m seeing that here in the states as well.


26 posted on 02/10/2024 2:22:48 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: TigersEye

“Masks aren’t worn in the operating room to prevent the transmission of viruses”

It must be to smell their own breath...


27 posted on 02/10/2024 4:16:39 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Even saying that masks were ineffective and therefore pointless and should not be enforced could land you in hot water.
So it is a free speech issue.

28 posted on 02/10/2024 4:40:37 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: BitWielder1

In addition to which...

Masks are fomites.

And some bugs, both viral and bacteria, ARE spread by fomites.

There’s a very good reason why we don’t hear about nosocomial infections in the news anymore, isn’t there.

Muzzles are part of that reason.


29 posted on 02/10/2024 4:43:42 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Seems to me that valid is the key term.

Precisely.

The damage done to trust in government, medicine & science due to their ridiculous dictates will take decades to correct.

This is nothing but a biased decision from an obviously lefty panel of judges.

30 posted on 02/10/2024 4:58:31 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Meanwhile, since deaths from medical mistakes in this country run in the six to seven figures annually, I’m wondering if excess mortality might decline because fewer people are being bumped off by Big Med.


31 posted on 02/10/2024 5:02:12 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Clutch Martin

Agree, wearing the mask was bad policy and a bad order. However, if you want to engage in free speech, in very large clear letters write on the OUTSIDE of the mask -FJB.

Better yet spell it out for all to see. The words will trigger the sheep and when they complain, ask if they want you to take the mask off.

From experience, responses have been priceless. You can have all kinds of fun with a Sharpie and paper masks


32 posted on 02/10/2024 5:05:51 AM PST by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Are they signalling they will make people wear mask,again?


33 posted on 02/10/2024 5:06:21 AM PST by Leep (Kill ALL Fakestinians!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The answer is to mandate that all officers of the court and judicial officers wear a mask at all time when within 50 feet of another human and entitle any private citizen to damages and sue them in small claims court for any violation that they witnessed


34 posted on 02/10/2024 5:29:02 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“required by valid health and safety orders put in place during a recognized public health emergency”

Bull shiite. Will not comply. Those masks were more harm than good. I don’t care if wearing one makes some squishy liberal “feel safe”. It makes me feel unsafe, and causes respiratory issues. Whose rights triumph? I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m not wearing a mask.


35 posted on 02/10/2024 5:50:56 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: mewzilla

You make a good point, but I believe that it supports the scenario that higher excess deaths are jab-centric...i.e., I don’t believe that excess mortality will decline.

But they’ll do their best to spin it, just like the economy & jobs.


36 posted on 02/10/2024 5:56:00 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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37 posted on 02/10/2024 6:26:20 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Yeah “valid” so anyone with a degree can dictate to us? Got it.


38 posted on 02/10/2024 7:01:42 AM PST by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

A VALID health order would be based on scientific fact!

The order that was given to wear masks ignored the science and gave the order anyways, making it invalid! Fauci actual.y had it right in the beginning when he said masks would not preven,t the spread of covid as the virus was too small to be stopped by masks. That was the only thing fauci was ever right about. He got lectured for his faux pas and quickly turned to demanding that people wear masks despite the evidence proving they did not work

Nearly everyone who got covid was wearing a mask at the time because of the state rules and regu,atio s concerning masking up in public.


39 posted on 02/10/2024 7:26:30 AM PST by Bob434
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To: oldplayer

Rather, it is the right to be left the hell alone.


Sadly the Founders didn’t think they’d need to spell it out so bluntly. However, the states have always had the power to not leave people the hell alone and as far as I’m aware, there never was a Federal mask requirement.


40 posted on 02/10/2024 7:26:40 AM PST by hanamizu ( )
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