Posted on 02/08/2024 8:54:33 PM PST by Kazan
Tucker Carlson released his interview with Vladimir Putin on Thursday night. During the interview Tucker asked Putin about the Nord Stream Pipeline.
Tucker Carlson: Who blew up Nord Stream?
Vladimir Putin: You for sure.
Tucker Carlson: I was busy that day. I did not blow up Nord Stream.
Vladimir Putin: Thank you. You personally may have an alibi, but the CIA has no such alibi.
Tucker Carlson: Do you, you have evidence that NATO or the CIA did it?
Vladimir Putin: You know, I won’t get into details, but people always say in such cases, look for someone who is interested. But in this case, we should not only look for someone who is interested, but also for someone who has capabilities. Because there may be many people interested, but not all of them are capable of sinking to the bottom of the Baltic Sea and carrying out this explosion. These two components should be connected. Who is interested and who is capable of doing it.
Tucker Carlson: But I’m confused. I mean, that’s the biggest act of industrial terrorism ever, and it’s the largest emission of CO2 in history. Okay, so if you had evidence, and presumably given your security services, your intel services, you would that NATO, the US, CIA, the West did this, why wouldn’t you present it and win a propaganda victory?
Vladimir Putin: In the war of propaganda, it is very difficult to defeat the United States because the United States controls all the world’s media and many European media. The ultimate beneficiary of the biggest european media are american financial institutions. Don’t you know that? So it is possible to get involved in this work, but it is cost prohibitive, so to speak. We can simply shine the spotlight on our sources of information and we will not achieve results. It is clear to the whole world what happened, and even american analysts talk about it directly.
The Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines were blown up by explosions measuring 2.3 on the Richter scale, in 230 ft. of water, in two spots 40 miles apart. German, Danish and Swedish authorities promised investigations but have not published official findings. On March 27, 2023, the UN Security Council rejected calls by Russia and China for an international investigation.
On Feb. 8, 2023, veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh published a detailed account of how the Biden administration’s National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan instructed the CIA to destroy the Nord Stream pipelines in December 2022, well before the start of the war. Hersh’s detailed account remains the most convincing version of the events, although it is routinely either “debunked” or ignored by the mainstream press, who prefer to speculate about anonymous Ukrainians who blew up the massive, 3 inch thick concrete and steel pipelines using a sailboat.
Writing again on the anniversary of the attack , Hersh revealed new details from his intel source about how the Biden administration misled the CIA into thinking the sabotage plans were meant to deter Putin and preserve peace, while instead aiming to cripple Germany economically and make sure Germany did not succumb to Russian pressure.
“The Biden administration blew up the pipelines but the action had little to do with winning or stopping the war in Ukraine, Hersh wrote “It resulted from fears in the White House that Germany would waver and turn on the flow of Russia gas—and that Germany and then NATO, for economic reasons, would fall under the sway of Russia and its extensive and inexpensive natural resources. And thus followed the ultimate fear: that America would lose its long-standing primacy in Western Europe.”
Hersh’s source explained “the real reason why the Biden administration brought up taking out the Nord Stream pipeline.” While Russia was supplying gas and oil to the world via more than a dozen pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and 2 ran directly from Russia through the Baltic Sea to Germany.
“The administration put Nord Stream on the table because it was the only one we could access and it would be totally deniable,” Hershs CIA source told him. “We solved the problem within a few weeks—by early January—and told the White House. Our assumption was that the president would use the threat against Nord Stream as a deterrent to avoid the war.”
Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland was clearly involved in the plot, Hersh writes, since on January 27, 2022, she “stridently warned Putin that if he invaded Ukraine, “one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward,” while noting that “We continue to have very strong and clear conversations with our German allies.”
When German chancellor Olaf Scholz visited Washington on February 7, 2022, Joe Biden warned that “If Russia invades … there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” Asked by a reporter how he could promise this since the pipeline was under Germany and Russia’s control, Biden said: “We will, I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.”
Olaf Scholz did not seem fazed by this threat. “We are acting together. We are absolutely united, and we will not be taking different steps. We will do the same steps, and they will be very hard to Russia”, Scholz said.
To the CIA team planning the attack, this signalled that German Chancellor Olaf Scholz was “fully aware of the secret planning underway to destroy the pipelines,” Hersh’s source told him.
At this time, the intel community took this as confirmation their task was “to come up with a plan that would be forceful enough to deter Putin from the attack on Ukraine,” Hersh writes. “We did it. We found an extraordinary deterrent because of its economic impact on Russia. And Putin did it despite the threat,” Hersh’s source said.
It took two expert US Navy deep sea divers “months of research and practice” along with Norwegian seamen, who found the spot to plant the bombs, before the mission was deemed a go. “Senior officials in Sweden and Denmark, who still insist they had no idea what was going on in their shared territorial waters, turned a blind eye to the activities of the American and Norwegian operatives. The American team of divers and support staff on the mission’s mother ship—a Norwegian minesweeper—would be hard to hide while the divers were doing their work. The team would not learn until after the bombing that Nord Stream 2 had been shut down with 750 miles of natural gas in it,” Hersh writes.
Despite Biden’s threat, Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022. Nonetheless, the White House told the CIA planning group “to plant the necessary bombs and be ready to trigger them ‘on demand’ even after the war began,“ Hersh writes. After the charges were planted in June 2022 as part of the BaltOps military exercise, the team was disbanded. The explosion was later triggered by a single Norwegian fighter plane “dropping of an altered off-the-shelf sonar device at the right spot in the Baltic Sea,” Hersh writes.
“It was then that we understood that the attack on the pipelines was not a deterrent because as the war went on we never got the command,” Hershs source told him. “We realized that the destruction of the two Russian pipelines was not related to the Ukrainian war but was part of a neocon political agenda to keep Scholz and Germany, with winter coming up and the pipelines shut down, from getting cold feet and opening up” the shuttered Nord Stream 2. “The White House fear was that Putin would get Germany under his thumb and then he was going to get Poland.”
“So the president struck a blow against the economy of Germany and Western Europe,” the source told Hersh. “He could have done it in June and told Putin: We told you what we would do.” The White House’s silence and denials were, he said, “a betrayal of what we were doing. If you are going to do it, do it when it would have made a difference.”
Vladimir Putin was not pushing anything during the Tucker Carlson interview that millions of Americans already knew.
Fascinating interview.
Even enjoyed the history lesson.
History is important and Putin made his point well the kind of depth Joe Biden sorely lacks.
Vlad’s interpreter speaks better English than any MSM hack.
So people “feared” an interview taking place where the same person just regurgitated the same propaganda comments already said many times over publicly?
You, as always, make very little sense.
The same person also said the West started the slave trade among other nonsensical rants. He’s a KGB / Soviet propagandist through and through. More comments you all fawned over at the time as well.
Give Hillary Clinton a big wet one for me.
Proud to be labeled scum for backing a nation that was
invaded, even if you don’t have the faculties to grasp
why that is important.
In WWII we watched as Germany took on nation after another
and then when we finally decided to do something about it,
we had to cover territory from Africa to Middle Europe,
and only on that front. On the other one, we had Japan
crawling all over the landscape.
Those who don’t pay attention to history, are condemned
to repeat it.
I don’t want our men having to help pull Europe and Asia
out of the mire again, but if we make things easy on
Russia in the Ukraine, we will have to.
And if we do have to, we can expect to spend 100x what
you guys are already choked up over.
Putin presented his view and himself well in the interview,
but he still stands the test of how this plays out over
time. Will he dog other countries as he and his other
fellow political figures have said? We don’t honestly
know.
When asked today, he stated he had no plans to go after
other nations, but he also stated that if other nations
go after his, then all bets are off (essentially).
Poland has assisted the Ukraine. He mentioned that. So
in effect, he telegraphed that Poland has essentially
gone after his nation (in a limited capacity). Now,
does he see it as a limited capacity on the same lines
we do? Does he think the U. S. has gone after his
nation?
The guy is a sly old fox, and I am not an easy guy to
impress, because I am aware of how other global leaders
have acted at times. I don’t even trust our own
leaders on that count.
Profound interview? No. Interesting? Yes. I think Putin
made some good points. I’m not quite as moved by him
as others will be. I view him with a skeptic eye.
I notice he didn’t mention the potato famine in the
Ukraine that wound up costing 20 million lives there,
as the central planners moved potatoes out of the back
country to other parts of the nation, leaving the
Ukraine region to starve.
He spent more time explaining why the Ukraine should
logically be Russia’s.
As I said, he’s a sly old fox.
we will have to.
Buy yourself a ticket to Ukraine than champ.
Damn Cold War Junkies
In this interview of Victor Orban five months ago, Orban infers the CIA did it. He says that if the southern pipeline from Russia gets NordStreamed in Hungary, he’d consider it an act of war. Tucker presses him on who the warning is meant for. He laughs and says the west of course. The only non US Quisling in NATO.
https://youtu.be/a5wdgDCUX70?si=ncsDpv5JSSqRiKgy
That third-grade argument is so juvenile.
You’re backing Russia. Have you bought a ticket to go
and fight for them yet?
Don’t you guys think at all?
I’m watching the interview now and I’m struck by how Putin’s hands aren’t shaking like the typical Parkinsonian patient. The Zelenskyy fan boys here have been insisting he’s on his last legs for months now. 🤣
And the gas lines were blown the day after a new line from Norway to Poland was turned on.
I think the USA is doing the work of the devil .
War is business and business is good.
Go cheer your drooling President Pedo Joe.
He likes 3rd graders too, since you brought them up Pops.
So you want to send someone else’s son to die for the scumbags Euro’s ?
Nobody here has suggested to send anyone’s kids to the
Ukraine, but I’m willing for you to out yourself on the
topic. They have asked for aid. We are sending it.
As for me being a supporter of Pedo Joe, I’ve been here
for 26 years now, and I’ve never supported a Leftist yet.
Just continue acting like a child, because you can’t grasp
all the dynamics on the line here.
I’ve been here
for 26 years now, and I’ve never supported a Leftist yet.
Just their policies, got it Pops.
It’s not a Leftist policy to help a nation defend itself
against an invasion. If we make it easy for Russia to
roll across Eastern Europe, it will be the start of WWIII.
Putin and his various lackeys have made remarks about
taking military actions in Moldova, Latvia, Estonia, Finland,
Sweden, and Poland.
Maybe you’re too wet behind the ears to realize how that
sounds a lot like how WWII started in Europe.
I know you’re trying to push Conservative policy, but
allowing a nation to play the part of Germany in WWII
right now, and ignore them, isn’t it.
You're paranoid and bat sh$t crazy if you think that is what Russia wants or that you don't realize everything that has happened in Ukraine is a result of our meddling in that country. WE fomented an illegal coup in Ukraine, installed a puppet regime hostile to Russia, setoff a civil war, trained and funded a 600,000 Ukrainian army, armed Ukraine with lethal weapons, were running biolabs with deadly pathogens in them and teased NATO membership for Ukraine.
If Russia or China had done anything like that in Mexico, WE, JUSTIFIABLY, WOULD INVADE.
WE WANTED THIS PROXY WAR, you idiot. And, it was all rooted in enriching our political class, rich a-holes like George Soros and Larry Fink/BlackRock and the defense industry.
Wet on the brain Pops ?
The CIA thought they were going to defeat Russia via their proxy war, something the CIA sucks at.
What is their track record ? Dismal Pops, dismal.
War with Russia, that sounds straight out of Hillary’s handbook.
You know what though, Drooling Joe doesn’t have the balls to declare war on Russia.
So support the Euro maggots of the EU, those balless Ferris won’t declare war on Russia either, now why is that Pops ?
Kazan, you simply cannot deal with reality. I’m not the one
that talked about Russia’s plans beyond the Ukraine. Russian
leaders did.
As for your nonsense about Mexico, if they put missiles down
there sure. What you can’t grasp is that Latvia and Estonia
were admitted to NATO in 2004, yet they have no missiles on
their soil.
Sweden has always been neutral. Is it your take we overturned
their government too, so that they would join NATO?
Nations in the region are worried about Russia. Finland
is on Russia’s border. They are worried about it, or they
wouldn’t have scrambled to join NATO.
Toss in Soros, the WEF, and Biden for good measure, and
lets call it a night.
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