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Rewarding the Oct 7 Massacres With a ‘Palestinian’ State-What do you get when you massacre over a thousand people? A country
Frontpagemagazine ^ | February 8, 2024 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 02/08/2024 6:08:20 AM PST by SJackson

What do you get when you massacre over a thousand people, rape, behead, torture and kidnap everyone Jewish, Christian or non-Arab in sight? International diplomatic recognition.

Secretary of State Tony Blinken has reportedly begun conducting a review of options for recognizing a ‘Palestinian’ state after the war. The State Department has claimed that there are no policy changes, but that may be yet more diplomatic doubletalk.

UK Foreign Secretary David Cameron, brought in after PM Rishi Sunak ousted Minister Suella Braverman for speaking out against the pro-Hamas rallies, published an op-ed calling for a “pause” in the fighting, exchanging Israeli hostages for captured Hamas terrorists, and providing “safe passage” to “key Hamas leaders” and “the people responsible for October 7” to leave Gaza. After that he announced that his government might recognize an Islamic terror state.

“We – with allies – will look at the issue of recognising a Palestinian state, including at the United Nations,” he claimed. “That could be one of the things that helps to make this process irreversible.”

Why the urgent need for the “irreversible” recognition of a terror state?

According to Cameron, “we must give the people of the West Bank and Gaza the political perspective of a credible route to a Palestinian state and a new future.”

The “people” in question have already been polled on what they want from the future.

A poll found that 74% of ‘Palestinians’ supported the Hamas atrocities of Oct 7 and a majority “extremely” supported them. Only 12% were against. 83% of those in the West Bank, under the Palestinian Authority and the immediate beneficiaries of statehood, supported the crimes.

98% in Gaza and the West Bank said that they felt ‘pride’ as ‘Palestinians’ over the war. 74% expected the fighting to end with the defeat of Israeli forces in Gaza. Only 17% supported a two-state solution while 77.7% wanted to destroy Israel and replace it with a ‘Palestinian’ state.

This is what supporting the “Palestinian people” with a “Palestinian state” really means.

Former Minister Theresa Villiers who, unlike Cameron, had backed Brexit, warned that “accelerating unilateral recognition of Palestinian state would be to reward Hamas’ atrocities.”

And that’s exactly right.

The only reason any of this is being discussed is the Oct 7 Hamas attack. Recognizing a terror state after one of the worst acts of terror in history will retroactively validate everything.

Hamas will be able to claim victory, and so will the ‘Palestinians’ who took part in it, cheered it and supported it to a larger degree than Germans supported Hitler.

The Palestinian Authority, on which the hopes for a Palestinian State, depend is just as bad.

Despite Blinken’s best efforts, Mahmoud Abbas, the PLO leader who serves as the official ‘President’ of the Palestinian Authority, refused to disavow the Oct 7 attacks. Instead, the PLO, Fatah and other elements of the ruling regime in charge of the West Bank have praised it and others, like the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, even bragged about taking part in the attacks.

A video from the Palestinian Authority terror group features “terrorists wearing Fatah’s yellow armbands firing Kalashnikov rifles at a kibbutz” and “a Fatah terrorist stamping on the head of a murdered Israeli” as the group boasts that “we had a prominent and clear role” on Oct 7.

Abbas was elected to a four-year term in 2005. There have been no elections since and he has functioned as a glorified dictator subsidized by our foreign aid. His likely successors, including the imprisoned leader of a terror group who is ahead in the polls, all praised the Hamas attack.

Democratic elections in a ‘Palestinian’ state would mean Hamas. The Islamic terror group won the 2006 legislative elections and took over Gaza. It’s why there have been no elections since. Current polls show that if there were to be democratic elections, Hamas would easily win them.

Biden claimed that, “the vast majority of Palestinians are not Hamas. Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people.” But the vast majority of them disagree and want Hamas to head or form part of a unity coalition of Islamic terrorist groups running a ‘Palestinian’ state..

The only Palestinian Authority candidate who could beat Hamas is Marwan Barghouti, the grandfather of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, currently serving several life sentences in Israel prison, who responded to Oct 7 by urging a total war against Israel. Hamas has demanded Barghouti’s release as part of any ‘terrorists-for-hostages’ trade with Israel..

Recognizing a ‘Palestinian’ state means either recognizing the Palestinian Authority’s terror dictatorship in the West Bank or Hamas. Either way an Islamic terrorist group will run the place, eliminate any opposition and launch more terrorist attacks against Israel and then anyone else.

But diplomats who were blindsided by the Oct 7 attacks are fighting to take control of the situation and the narrative by offering up the same old failed policies. Diplomats claim that Oct 7 was caused by a failure to negotiate, but it had really been brought about by endless negotiations.

Before the Oct 7 assault, National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan had an article in Foreign Affairs magazine touting how negotiations with Hamas had led to quiet in Gaza. After the Hamas invasion, the online version had that edited out and only the print copies remain.

The roots of the Oct 7 attack lie in the 1992 pressure campaign to force Israel to take back the Hamas terror leaders it had deported, followed by the Oslo accord deals with Arafat and the PLO, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s ’s insistence on democratic elections that brought Hamas to power, Obama’s Arab Spring which empowered the Muslim Brotherhood parent organization of Hamas to win democratic elections, including in neighboring Egypt, which provided a vital outlet of support for Hamas, and then the Iran Deal that funded the state sponsor of Hamas which led Iran to expand its operations and ambitions around the region.

The addiction to diplomacy, nation building, accords and agreements led fatally to Oct 7.

Israel had resisted allowing Hamas to take part in elections only to face pressure from Rice.

“Whenever you have 80 percent of the Palestinian people turn out in a free and fair election, one that is free of violence, it has to be a cause for hope,” Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice argued after Hamas won the 2005 elections.

In 2007, a year after Hamas seized control of Gaza, Rice declared, “frankly, it’s time for the establishment of a Palestinian state.”

No matter how often the same approach fails, the diplomats never admit they were wrong.

To be a modern day diplomat is to ignorantly blame a lack of diplomacy and negotiations for everything and to promise that they can fix everything. Diplomats were telling us for generations that a “Palestinian state” would be the solution to all of the problems in the region, but ever since the Oslo accords, life in Israel and the Middle East has become much more violent.

There’s a limit to how much damage generals can do, but not diplomats.

Compare the damage from the Iraq War to the fallout from the Arab Spring which didn’t just set one country on fire, but led to brutal and enduring civil wars in Yemen, Syria and Libya, while causing serious harm in Egypt, Tunisia, and many other countries across the region.

Oct 7 was not the result of a military process, but a diplomatic one, in which the Biden administration and several Israeli governments had negotiated temporary quiet with Hamas.

Diplomats can’t afford to allow the impression that there is a military solution to terrorism. Or to much of anything else. And so they’re rushing to impose their diplomatic solution that would empower terrorists because that is all that diplomacy with terrorists ever accomplishes.

Since Oslo, diplomacy has consistently proved the flip side of the Roman “si vis pacem, para bellum” or “if you would have peace, prepare for war.”

Israelis have learned the hard way that if they prepare for peace, they will have war. Diplomacy is supposed to avert war, but with Islamic terrorists it encourages war instead.

Despite all the promises, the Oslo accords and other peace negotiations never ended the violence because the Islamic terrorists quickly realized that violence was their best leverage. Negotiations soon fell by the wayside as the Palestinian Authority terrorists focused on direct or indirect proxy terrorism. Hamas then took up the slack by promising to turn the violence on or off in exchange for money and political power. Recognizing a “Palestinian” state after Oct 7 would validate terrorism as the ultimate strategy yet again and would ensure more such attacks.

The push for a “Palestinian” state after Oct 7 not only rewards the atrocities of that day, but encourages the Arab Muslim ‘Palestinian’ settlers living in the West Bank and Gaza to repeat them.

What do you get when you massacre over a thousand people, rape, behead, torture and kidnap everyone Jewish, Christian or non-Arab in sight? The answer should not be your own country.


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: danielgreenfield; greenfield; israel; sultanknish
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1 posted on 02/08/2024 6:08:20 AM PST by SJackson
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To: texas booster

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2 posted on 02/08/2024 6:08:41 AM PST by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed, Stanislaw Jerzy Lec)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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3 posted on 02/08/2024 6:09:38 AM PST by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed, Stanislaw Jerzy Lec)
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To: SJackson

Blinken is an a**hole, and the entire State Department is anti-Semitic. They are doing exactly what the did during the Holocaust - resist denying Jews justice.


4 posted on 02/08/2024 6:14:58 AM PST by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: SJackson

After the Senate plucked out Border Funding from their Ukraine aid package, they have proposed aid to Ukraine and will include 10 billion for Hamas reconstruction. So these liars are yelling out of both sides of their mouths. Blinken ‘scolded’ the Jews for using excessive force on those ‘poor Palestinians, who were passing out candies on October 7th.


5 posted on 02/08/2024 6:18:16 AM PST by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: SJackson

Blinken is a disgrace, a hollow man promoting genocidal actors, gaslighting to please his masters.
Biden is a mumbling shambling ghost of an evil man who is being used to create a new world order of crime, slavery and profit for his handlers.


6 posted on 02/08/2024 6:18:20 AM PST by JayGalt
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To: silent majority rising

Blinken is a Jew.
Wendy Sherman is a Jew.
Victoria Nuland is a Jew.

Interesting DoS Nazi party…


7 posted on 02/08/2024 6:22:30 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Blinken is a Jew.
Wendy Sherman is a Jew.
Victoria Nuland is a Jew.

Kapos!


8 posted on 02/08/2024 6:24:14 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: EEGator

Soros is a Jew. They are collaborators. The lowest form of life.


9 posted on 02/08/2024 6:25:03 AM PST by JayGalt
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To: SJackson

This administration knows nothing about Israel and their enemies. Arafat was offered land for peace.. He refused it. They don’t want a piece.. They want it ALL. They want the Jews gone from the land.. They want to be the only ones on the land.


10 posted on 02/08/2024 6:27:24 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: JayGalt

“Soros is a Jew. They are collaborators. The lowest form of life.”

I recently read in a book titled “Hitler in Argentina” that Eichman, Borman and Mengele were Jewish. I have not been able to corroborate this but the example of Soros makes this plausible.


11 posted on 02/08/2024 6:29:06 AM PST by KamperKen (u)
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To: frnewsjunkie

Who funded Hamas to weaken the PLO?
Who is Avner Cohen?


12 posted on 02/08/2024 6:30:35 AM PST by EEGator
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To: SJackson

BTTT


13 posted on 02/08/2024 6:31:01 AM PST by nopardons
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To: EEGator

So is Bernie Sanders, who needs to make Aliyah and accept the ownership of Eretz Israel (possess the possession that God has given him).


14 posted on 02/08/2024 6:31:19 AM PST by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: SJackson

Israel and the land surrounding.. The troubles go back to Bible times and Abraham.
Without that time period in the mix, none of this makes sense.
Israel has fought for their right to exist for years. Their military is capable.. It has to be.
God still has that land.. Jesus comes back to earth there.. However, it is filled with people who have other gods. To side against Israel is a mistake.. It isn’t just another country on just a piece of land.


15 posted on 02/08/2024 6:46:01 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: JayGalt
Blinken is a disgrace

You got that right. Everything you said is right on target. He is a disgrace of a human who belongs in prison for the rest of his miserable life. I only hope that he receives Divine justice and soon for trying to harm Israel.

16 posted on 02/08/2024 7:32:15 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: silent majority rising

silent majority rising:

“Blinken is an a**hole, “

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Double standard and strange: Blinken demands Israel ensure Gazans aren’t “dehumanized,”[sic] — whatever that means— won’t ask same of Hamas.


17 posted on 02/08/2024 8:37:20 AM PST by Conservat1
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To: EEGator

PLO and Hanas sanme difference same evil.


18 posted on 02/08/2024 8:39:08 AM PST by Conservat1
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To: Conservat1

Not an answer.


19 posted on 02/08/2024 8:42:12 AM PST by EEGator
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To: SJackson

Let me preface by saying that in no way do I support Hamas or any other of those terrorist organizations, but I do remember that prior to the partition in 1947 there were terroristic acts by Jewish groups, (Haganah, et al)—Granted, these acts were directed toward the British Military and Governmental establishment and not civilians per se-

I am not trying to maintain an equivalence here, but to illustrate that sometimes countries are born in the most wicked of ways.

Should the “Palestinians” have a country? IIRC they already do—its called Jordan. Should these particular “Palestinians” in Gaza have a country? No. They can either assimilate into Israeli society or into Jordanian, or other arab societies. The problem it appears is that the “political” leadership of said “palestinians” can not play nice with others. The average civilian, after a few generations might be able to live with others without going full-tilt crazy

Lebanon was destroyed by these same characters—Syria, Iraq, Iran—all Crazies. Egypt has turned around to a more “secular” country and Saudi Arabia is slowly joining the “Age of Enlightenment.”

And all the problems see to be is that Islam itself has not gone through a Reformation similiar to what Catholicism went through.

The bloc of Islamic countries do not need to go globo-homo like the west—but perhaps highlight the more enlightened aspects of the religion that brought us mathematics, intricate geometric designs and beautiful poetry. A Jihad of the soul versus the militaristic type of jihad.

Then again, IMHO, there is only one religion that stresses the Jihad of the soul, to overcome sin and ask for forgiveness: Christianity.


20 posted on 02/08/2024 9:30:38 AM PST by abigkahuna (Honk Honk. It’s Clown World Out There. )
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