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The judge never considered how common silencers are. The judge essentially ignored the Bruen decision.
1 posted on 01/29/2024 4:48:04 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The Miranda Rule should apply to firearms as well as detainees. It is ‘settled law’, isn’t it?


2 posted on 01/29/2024 4:55:45 AM PST by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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To: marktwain

If silencers seem “unusual”, perhaps it is because the federal government has been infringing them for decades. They’d be pretty darn common if you could pick them up at Walmart.


3 posted on 01/29/2024 4:56:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: marktwain

IANAL...

BUT.. If this judge has ruled that suppressors are NOT guns/Arms.. And it gets upheld.

I think this just became a whole new ball game.


4 posted on 01/29/2024 4:56:55 AM PST by uranium penguin
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To: marktwain

The judge is a Humpty Dumpty Jurist/Lawyer.

1. Silencers are accessories, not “arms,” protected by the Second Amendment.
Charges filed under USC26which deals with arms (2ndA) and accessories and attachments to arms. Making the specified accessories and attachments “arms” by inclusion.

2. There is a history of regulating “dangerous and unusual” weapons. Silencers are “dangerously unusual.” “A word salad-phrase made to fit the precedent. No relevant code defining either word. Subjective and vague.

3. There is a historical tradition of regulation of commerce in firearms. Therefore, silencers can be regulated with serial numbers and registration. The silencers were made for the exclusive use of the defendant and not intended to be sold let alone “sold in interstate commerce”.

The judge has decided not on the merits but on the zeitgeist and narrative that is acceptable to his “superiors”.


5 posted on 01/29/2024 4:59:58 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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To: PROCON

Ping.


7 posted on 01/29/2024 5:04:56 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: marktwain

Someone needs to open a gun range near his home and see if he changes his mind about silencers.


9 posted on 01/29/2024 5:06:36 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: marktwain

The gun is the one consumer product that the left prevents consumer noise protection for and insists that it remains harmful and permanently damaging to the users’ hearing.


11 posted on 01/29/2024 5:10:29 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: marktwain

Suppressors are actually safety devices which protect one’s hearing. I wish I had had access to them many years ago. They really are no different than ear plugs or muffs.


12 posted on 01/29/2024 5:11:04 AM PST by Rlsau1
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To: marktwain

That’s like saying cars can’t come with steering wheels.


13 posted on 01/29/2024 5:23:37 AM PST by bgill
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To: marktwain

It would seem to me that if silencers are NOT Protected by Second Amendment, then they should not be governed by the Second Amendment, thus making them entirely legal. Just like a scope is attached to a rifle and is entirely legal.


14 posted on 01/29/2024 5:40:41 AM PST by caver
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To: marktwain

I am certain that our Second Amendment holds its post in the Bill of Rights, as part of its duty to protect our First Amendment from being silenced.


16 posted on 01/29/2024 5:43:14 AM PST by linMcHlp
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18 posted on 01/29/2024 5:57:55 AM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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19 posted on 01/29/2024 6:11:58 AM PST by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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The libs are on the wrong side of this one. Silencers protect hearing, I’m surprised OSHA or some other fruitcake gov agency hasn’t taken this up as a cause, guns should never be fired without silencers. It would make war quieter too not disturbing animals in their habitats.


20 posted on 01/29/2024 6:15:15 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (Accepting a false premise initiates conversational defeat.)
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To: marktwain

And nails are “accessories” for blunt objects like hammers.


22 posted on 01/29/2024 6:30:47 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ( Joe Pedo's America! The Motel 6 to the world. Joe's Border Patrol will keep the light on for you.)
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To: marktwain
1) Silencers are accessories, not “arms,” protected by the Second Amendment.
2) There is a history of regulating “dangerous and unusual” weapons. Silencers are “dangerously unusual.”
3) There is a historical tradition of regulation of commerce in firearms. Therefore, silencers can be regulated with serial numbers and registration.

1) FALSE. Federal law says otherwise; Category 1(e): Silencers, mufflers, and sound suppressors.

2) Nonsense. In much of the world, certainly in highly civilized countries in Europe, not using a silencer is considered bad manners. Silencers are highly usual.

3) Again, nonsense. The so-called "historical tradition" begins with the highly non-traditional, and obviously unconstitutional National Firearms Act in 1934 ... more than a century after the founding of The Republic.

An honest judge would tell the Biden Regime to pound sand.

27 posted on 01/29/2024 7:53:37 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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These silencers were made and found in Louisiana. The Constitution limits federal law enforcement to acts in interstate commerce. These silencers have never been in interstate commerce.


34 posted on 01/29/2024 10:02:39 AM PST by nagant (RKE)
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