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Federal Appeals Court Slams FBI’s Actions In Security Deposit Box Raid
Institute for Justice ^ | January 23, 2024 | Andrew Wimer ·

Posted on 01/24/2024 6:49:34 PM PST by george76

Ninth Circuit panel unanimously orders FBI to destroy records it created during searches of US Private Vaults boxes..

PASADENA, Calif.—This morning, a 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel unanimously ruled against the government in a long-running class action lawsuit from the Institute for Justice (IJ) on behalf of people who rented security deposit boxes at US Private Vaults. The decision slammed the FBI for overstepping its authority when it opened up hundreds of renters’ boxes, conducted criminal searches of them all, and attempted to permanently keep everything in the boxes worth more than $5,000, all without charging any box renter with a crime.

“Today’s opinion draws a line in the sand, to ensure something like this never happens again,” said IJ Senior Attorney Rob Johnson. “If this had come out the other way, the government could have exported this raid as a model across the country. Now, the government is on notice its actions violated the Fourth Amendment.”

Judge Milan D. Smith, writing for the court, likened the FBI’s actions to the abuses that motivated the Bill of Rights: “[T]he government failed to explain why applying the inventory exception to this case would not open the door to the kinds of ‘writs of assistance’ the British authorities used prior to the Founding to conduct limitless searches of an individual’s personal belongings. It was those very abuses of power, after all, that led to adoption of the Fourth Amendment in the first place.”

“We knew that what the FBI did to us and so many others was wrong and today’s decision is a validation,” said Jennifer Snitko. “It took courage for Paul and I to be among the first people to stand up publicly and call out the government but we are proud to have fought for our rights. This is a good day for our country and the principle that the government’s power to search our property has limits.”

For years, the FBI and Department of Justice (DOJ) insisted that they did nothing wrong at US Private Vaults. Even though the warrant authorizing the raid only permitted the FBI to open boxes to identify their owners and safeguard the contents, agents rummaged through hundreds of boxes, ran currency they found in front of drug sniffing dogs, and made copies of people’s most personal records. The DOJ then filed a massive administrative forfeiture claim to take more than $100 million in cash and other valuables, again, without charging any individual with a crime.

“The government promised the magistrate that it would not conduct a criminal search or seizure of the boxes,” said IJ Senior Attorney Robert Frommer. “After years of litigation, today’s opinion shows that not to be true. The government lied to justify its forfeiture scheme, and in the end the lie was its undoing.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: armedrobbery; assetforfeiture; civil; civilforfeiture; civilrights; confiscation; constitution; doj; donutwatch; fbi; forfeiture; fourthamendment; pirates; raid; roadpirates; safedeposit; safedepositbox; safedepositboxes; theft; usprivatevaults; violation; warrant
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To: george76

Can a bunch of limp wristed guys in black dresses really slam anything?


21 posted on 01/24/2024 7:22:09 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: Uncle Miltie
The FBI are criminals.

Why, yes, yes they are. It's long past time for the FBI to be abolished.

22 posted on 01/24/2024 7:23:22 PM PST by DSH
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To: gunnut
They failed to video the opening and inventory of the boxes.

They also failed to secure the Epstein pedo videos and hard drives.

As they were paid to do by the interested wealthy parties...

23 posted on 01/24/2024 7:23:43 PM PST by kiryandil (Rocco is roccking again!!)
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To: george76

Civil forfeiture laws are nothing but robbery. Police (federal or state or local) that forces the owner to spend a single penny to get your own money back is theft. No crime then no forfeiture. It should be that simple. Police “holding” property after an encounter requiring legal effort to get your own stuff back is theft. I don’t care the reason. It’s one of the reason why we pushed the king out of the USA.

I am sure there are plenty here at FR that will contort themselves into pretzels in order to seize ‘drug money” without a criminal prosecution. Unfortunately there are plenty of boot lickers in this county unto its them. They will say no one needs that much freedom.


24 posted on 01/24/2024 7:31:48 PM PST by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: BigEdLB

Why? If people choose to collect coins, or stamps, or anything else worth more than $5,000, what’s your objection?


25 posted on 01/24/2024 7:37:28 PM PST by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: george76

The world of law enforcement and intelligence is too juicy for normal men to stay unstained.


26 posted on 01/24/2024 7:42:07 PM PST by lurk (u)
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To: george76

The FBI stole money and property, they also aren’t going to destroy the records they generated OR return the property they illegally siezed.


27 posted on 01/24/2024 7:45:45 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: kiryandil

Honestly, I don’t think they even care.


28 posted on 01/24/2024 7:50:41 PM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: george76

DEA at airports


29 posted on 01/24/2024 7:51:26 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: george76

The Civil War gold is another place where the FBI was crooked.


30 posted on 01/24/2024 8:09:35 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: george76

Where’s the justice? Answer; there isn’t any. And all the talking heads say the FBI field agents are hard working and honest. That’s obviously BS!


31 posted on 01/24/2024 8:10:59 PM PST by drypowder
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To: george76

duly noted


32 posted on 01/24/2024 8:19:49 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: george76

for what its worth, the corrupt DOJ FeralBureauIntimidation/Interrogation doesn’t give a damn.

-fJRoberts-


33 posted on 01/24/2024 8:23:46 PM PST by A strike (Words can have gender, humans cannot.)
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To: griswold3
Part of what they are going after is the FBI made copies of all the personal records they found in the boxes.

They want the records destroyed as they were seized illigally.

34 posted on 01/24/2024 8:29:14 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( In a quaint alleyway, they graciously signaled for a vehicle on the main road to lead the way. )
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To: BigEdLB

My husband has one worth more then that so I will answer your question. What do you “wonder” about it?


35 posted on 01/24/2024 8:30:22 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( In a quaint alleyway, they graciously signaled for a vehicle on the main road to lead the way. )
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To: george76

over the years I wondered about this incident.

straight-line thinking suggests they were looking for something very very valuable and specific, and all the rest is just gravy/opportunism/obfusication.

if correct, I wonder what they were after. my best theory was a crypto memory stick with huge notional value. there are some out there, apparently.


36 posted on 01/24/2024 8:33:04 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: healy61; Don W

Truth that!


37 posted on 01/24/2024 8:58:46 PM PST by A strike (Words can have gender, humans cannot.)
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To: george76

The FBI committed armed robbery. They should arrest themselves.


38 posted on 01/24/2024 9:59:41 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Uncle Miltie
The FBI are criminals.

I think the 99% of bad ones, give the 1% of good ones a bad name. I had a friend, back around 2011. He told me he had been accepted for the FBI. I told him I had little or no respect for the FBI, and promptly had one less friend in my life.

39 posted on 01/24/2024 11:24:40 PM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
They want the records destroyed as they were seized illigally.

People in Hell want……oh, never mind. You know already.

40 posted on 01/24/2024 11:30:37 PM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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