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‘Angel or antichrist’: Russia grapples with Lenin’s legacy 100 years after death
The Guardian ^ | 1/21/24 | Andrew Roth

Posted on 01/21/2024 10:14:49 AM PST by Borges

Sunday’s centenary of the death of Vladimir Lenin, one of the most influential leaders of the 20th century, will largely go uncelebrated in his home country of Russia this weekend, where the revolutionary leader stands accused of laying a “timebomb” underneath Russia and Ukraine that has exploded in the past decade.

There will be no parades or stirring speeches in Red Square. The obvious reason is that one of Lenin’s most strident critics is Vladimir Putin, who appears far more enamoured with the empire that Lenin’s revolutionaries overthrew.

Often portrayed in official Soviet culture as a grandfatherly, nurturing figure who ushered in the revolution of 1917, Lenin’s legacy is being repainted in darker hues, despite some pleas for the issue to be put to rest, both rhetorically and corporeally.

“In my opinion, the 100th anniversary of Lenin’s death creates an opportunity to try to move away from the endless passionate and meaningless bickering around the dilemma: is he an angel from heaven or a monstrous antichrist, the embodiment of absolute world evil?” said Vladimir Lukin, a Russian senator who formerly served as a human rights commissioner. But, he added: “Whether it will be used is another question.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 1917; cccp; communism; lenin; putin; putinlovescommunism; russia; russiaiscommunist; sovietunion

1 posted on 01/21/2024 10:14:49 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

We all know how The Guardian’s staff feel about the question.


2 posted on 01/21/2024 10:21:10 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

The offices of The Guardian likely have a shrine to Lenin.


3 posted on 01/21/2024 10:23:38 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Jeff Chandler
...the most influential leaders of the 20th century

Oh STFU. May Lenin rot in Hell. The only good Communists are dead Communists.

4 posted on 01/21/2024 10:25:43 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Borges

Meanwhile they still like Stalin....


5 posted on 01/21/2024 10:56:48 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Borges

“angel or anti-christ”

How bout “mass murderer”

Wasn’t too much spiritual about the cretin.


6 posted on 01/21/2024 10:59:20 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Borges

I remember when the democrats in the US, especially old killer Ted Kennedy, loved the Soviets ... It is very difficult to reconcile the babbling godfather Joey, plot the regime change against Putin... The worm has turned ... blood red.


7 posted on 01/21/2024 11:04:11 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Borges

Um.... Anti-Christ. A murderous bastard.


8 posted on 01/21/2024 11:21:15 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: Borges

Are those Ruuskis still protecting his body?


9 posted on 01/21/2024 11:34:33 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Army Air Corps

—”The offices of The Guardian likely have a shrine to Lenin.”

Only one?


10 posted on 01/21/2024 11:39:53 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Borges

How about sinful human.


11 posted on 01/21/2024 11:40:25 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: Borges

Lenin lives

Gog usa

Magog nato

Rev 13

Ps

Hitler too


12 posted on 01/21/2024 11:42:41 AM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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To: shanover

—”Oh STFU. May Lenin rot in Hell. The only good Communists are dead Communists.”

That said, Free Republic has several Putin acolytes...
How does that happen?


13 posted on 01/21/2024 11:42:44 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

IBTZ


14 posted on 01/21/2024 11:47:50 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“The only good Communists are dead Communists.”

That said, Free Republic has several Putin acolytes...
How does that happen? “


I dunno... maybe read the article.

“...one of Lenin’s most strident critics is Vladimir Putin, ...”


15 posted on 01/21/2024 11:54:00 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Borges
"‘Angel or antichrist’"

Given that Lenin distributed pamphlets instructing rioters to throw acid into the faces of police officers, I think the jury's in on that question.

16 posted on 01/21/2024 11:56:08 AM PST by The Duke (Why do I think that the cynicism gene is going to be prevalent in future generations?)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Touché!


17 posted on 01/21/2024 12:41:23 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Borges

Not many know that Lenin was behind the Red Terror after an assassination attempt on him, Trotsky and several others, that ran from August 1918 to February 1922.

The number of people executed is estimated between 50,000 and 200,000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror
https://time.com/5386789/red-terror-soviet-history/
https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/history-and-civilisation/2020/09/how-the-red-terror-set-a-macabre-course-for-the-soviet-union


18 posted on 01/21/2024 1:06:23 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Borges

An angel, of course. Stalin was the bad guy. /s


19 posted on 01/21/2024 2:22:10 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Reverend Wright

So, using the Guardian’s logic, Fannie Kaplan and Molotov were pining for the Czar? Despite being huge communists in their own right? Just because they like Putin also made criticisms of Lenin (heck, tried to assassinate Lenin in the case of Fanny)?

And last I checked, the event that Putin called the greatest geopolitical disaster in history was the fall of the USSR, NOT the fall of Czarist Russia (ie, 1917), and he also still had Lenin statues installed in Ukraine, not to mention despite having plenty of opportunities to use his clout to shut down the Lenin Mausoleum and bury him in an unmarked grave at best, he still keeps it open. That sounds like he’s more in favor of Communism than for Imperial Russia.


20 posted on 01/23/2024 5:40:53 PM PST by otness_e
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