EU’s top diplomat: Palestinian state may need to be imposed on Israel from outside

Times of Israel ^ | 1/19/2024 | Jacob Magid

[fruser1]

European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said on Friday that the only peaceful solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict included the creation of a Palestinian state, and he suggested this might need to “be imposed from the outside,” without Israel’s agreement.

“The actors are too opposed to be able to reach an agreement autonomously,” Borrell said. “If everyone is in favor of this solution, the international community will have to impose it.”

[af_vet_1981]

The EU can’t help themselves. See Ezekiel 38:4.

I see that Ezekiel and raise you Isaiah 37:

14. And Hezekiah received the letter from the hand of the messengers, and read it: and Hezekiah went up unto the house of the LORD, and spread it before the LORD.
15. And Hezekiah prayed unto the LORD, saying,
16. O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.
17. Incline thine ear, O LORD, and hear; open thine eyes, O LORD, and see: and hear all the words of Sennacherib, which hath sent to reproach the living God.
18. Of a truth, LORD, the kings of Assyria have laid waste all the nations, and their countries,
19. And have cast their gods into the fire: for they were no gods, but the work of men's hands, wood and stone: therefore
20. Now therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD, even thou only.
21. Then Isaiah the son of Amoz sent unto Hezekiah, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Whereas thou hast prayed to me against Sennacherib king of Assyria:
22. This is the word which the LORD hath spoken concerning him; The virgin, the daughter of Zion, hath despised thee, and laughed thee to scorn; the daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her head at thee.
23. Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed? and against whom hast thou exalted thy voice, and lifted up thine eyes on high? even against the Holy One of Israel.
24. By thy servants hast thou reproached the Lord, and hast said, By the multitude of my chariots am I come up to the height of the mountains, to the sides of Lebanon; and I will cut down the tall cedars thereof, and the choice fir trees thereof: and I will enter into the height of his border, and the forest of his Carmel.
25. I have digged, and drunk water; and with the sole of my feet have I dried up all the rivers of the besieged places.
26. Hast thou not heard long ago, how I have done it; and of ancient times, that I have formed it? now have I brought it to pass, that thou shouldest be to lay waste defenced cities into ruinous heaps.
27. Therefore their inhabitants were of small power, they were dismayed and confounded: they were as the grass of the field, and as the green herb, as the grass on the housetops, and as corn blasted before it be grown up.
28. But I know thy abode, and thy going out, and thy coming in, and thy rage against me.
29. Because thy rage against me, and thy tumult, is come up into mine ears, therefore will I put my hook in thy nose, and my bridle in thy lips, and I will turn thee back by the way by which thou camest.
30. And this shall be a sign unto thee, Ye shall eat this year such as groweth of itself; and the second year that which springeth of the same: and in the third year sow ye, and reap, and plant vineyards, and eat the fruit thereof.
31. And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward:
32. For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and they that escape out of mount Zion: the zeal of the LORD of hosts shall do this.
33. Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the king of Assyria, He shall not come into this city, nor shoot an arrow there nor come before it with shields, nor cast a bank against it.
34. By the way that he came, by the same shall he return, and shall not come into this city, saith the LORD.
35. For I will defend this city to save it for mine own sake, and for my servant David's sake.

[Navy Patriot]

EU’s top diplomat: Palestinian state may need to be imposed on Israel from outside

Oh Boy, this could be Fun!

I would love to see the EU try this!

[MinorityRepublican]

EU will get their asses kicked.

They all have massive welfare states. And it's partly our fault. They're protected under NATO umbrella.

I realize that Russia is back causing some trouble. But it's time for Europe to grow up and fend for themselves.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Good luck with that. 😆

[jjotto]

“Then the angel of the Lord went forth, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.”

[Da Coyote]

Top Diplomat, eh?
Well, as if we didn’t need further proof, the lib arts side of any “world” organization is composed of folks who would fail a frosh “studies” class.

The oft-quoted line about insanity being associated with a person who keeps doing the same thing and expecting different results comes to mind.

[Cincinnatus.45-70]

How many divisions does the EU have?

[ducttape45]

God Almighty might have a say in that decision......

[McGavin999]

Ok. Let’s give them Brussels

[Rummyfan]

“The actors are too opposed to be able to reach an agreement autonomously,” Borrell said.

The palestinians know they could have peace tomorrow. The two-state solution is not what the palestinians want; they want the eradication of Israel.

[Rummyfan]

But then again, they’re replacing them with new voters at a rapid clip.

They're replacing all of us at a rapid clip.

[Rummyfan]

F Off, Europe, you killed six million Jewish people. You have no say.

Indeed! The EU can go pound sand.

[Rummyfan]

As the saying goes, the Europeans will never forgive the Jews for the Holocaust.

[Rummyfan]

...“...even though Washington maintains that the two-state solution is the only feasible way to bring lasting peace to the region.”

I have a different way to bring lasting peace to the region, but I can't say it here.

[Ouderkirk]

You do not let a cockroach mound be built next to your home.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

Hitler is back in a fancy suit. Only the Swastika is missing.

[Ancesthntr]

Speaking at a news briefing, Miller said Israel had an opportunity right now as countries in the region were ready to provide security assurances to Israel.
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Security assurances aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on, never have been.

[monkeyshine]

This is silly. The lack of a Palestinian state has more to do with the Palestinians refusing to declare or accept one than Israel trying to prevent it.

When Israel was created in 1948, it was by their own declaration of independence. Then they had to fight a war that very day to keep it. And then many more wars in the decades to follow.

Palestinians’ best chance was when Arafat had the opportunity. Now, they are a mess. They do not have a central government; they are not in control of anything other than the money. They cannot police their own populace. They rely on Israel for just about everything - money, taxes, water, energy, food. They rely on handouts and the UN. Anyway the first thing they need to do if they want a state is to declare their independence. They won’t do that because then they have to abide by international norms and lose their status as perpetual victims.

[af_vet_1981]

Palestinian state - wasn’t Gaza a Palestinian state?

Yes, a Philistine city state
1. Greek: Παλαιστίνη, Palaistínē;
2. Latin: Palaestina;
3. Arabic: فِلَسْطِينَ, Filasṭīn, Falasṭīn, Filisṭīn;
4. Hebrew: פלשתינה, Palestīna, פְּלֶשֶׁת Philistia

The Philistines disappear from written records following the conquest of the Levant by the Neo-Babylonian emperor Nebuchadnezzar II during the 6th century BC, when Ashkelon and many other cities from the region were destroyed.[21]

The current Palestinians are called Philistines in Arabic because the 'P' is pronounced with an 'F':


1. Palestinians (Arabic: الفلسطينيون, al-Filasṭīniyyūn;
2. Hebrew: פָלַסְטִינִים, Fālasṭīnīm) or Palestinian people (الشعب الفلسطيني, ash-sha'b al-Filasṭīnī), also referred to as Palestinian Arabs (العرب الفلسطينيون, al-ʿArab al-Filasṭīniyyūn), are an ethnonational group descending from peoples who have inhabited the region ...

[hecticskeptic]

Those calling for a ‘two state solution’ in Israel need to go back and read their history books from the 1940s... Jordan IS the second state that was carved out of land that was all part of Palestine.

https://conservativepapers.com/news/2023/11/02/stop-pretending-that-jordan-is-not-palestine-the-two-state-solution-was-already-implemented-when-jordan-was-created-with-land-from-british-mandate-palestine-following-the-same-model-as-the-india/

The “Two-State-Solution” was already implemented when Jordan was created with land from British Mandate Palestine following the same model as the India-Pakistan partition. The Oslo model for the “Two-State-Solution” is dead. If Jews are ethnically cleansed from Judea and Samaria and a new Palestinian Arab State is formed there Hamas will take over and atack Israel from there as it does from Gaza. The Palestinians already have a State in Jordan where they are the majority of the population....