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To: Magnum44; dfwgator; JSM_Liberty; Tell It Right; C210N; Wuli; dragnet2; USA-FRANCE; delchiante; ...
The nation didn’t vote for Biden. What an incredibly stupid thing for Johnson to say.

To the contrary, to deny this is to be ignorant of Scripture, and of context, as Newsweek is (and most FReepers it seems).

He evoked scripture during his October 25 speech, saying: "The Bible is very clear that God is the one that raises up those in authority." "I said in my speech before I took the gavel that I am a Bible-believing Christian," Johnson responded. "A Bible-believing Christian believes what the Bible says, right? The Bible says that God is the one that raises up people in authority. I believe God is sovereign. By the way, so did the founders.

Which is wholly scriptural, yet which does not mean sanctioning the bad character of the elected, but as allowing such to be elected as a judgment against the country who did allow such, and as working out toward a greater purpose:

This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men. (Daniel 4:17)
And if God did not let Hillary run for president, Trump would not have been elected.

God allowed Joseph (a far better character and faith than any modern president I know of) to be sold into slavery by his envious siblings, then framed, and then forgotten in prison, but which resulted in him rising to second in command of Egypt, to the salvation of his family and people.

But as for you [siblings], ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive. (Genesis 50:20)

Thus from the Newsweek page, its article is

And being an omniscient, omnipotent, infallible eternal being - who knows what all the effects will be of every action, and who can will make all to ultimately work out for what is Good, with justice as well as mercy, then finite, fallible and ultimately failing beings are in no position to judge them.

And which attributes renders Him as alone being worthy of being man's God - and thus the ultimate source of security and object of allegiance, and of spiritual affection - versus some finite created source.

86 posted on 01/18/2024 9:24:31 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212

There is lots of other scripture to support what I stated.


87 posted on 01/18/2024 9:33:22 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: daniel1212

In the interest of time, and because I am only a Biblical student, and not a scholar, I plagiarize this from the wonderful WWW:

The Bible has a lot to say about governing authorities. In Romans 13:1, it says, “Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.” This means that God wants us to be obedient to Him and to the authorities. It is important to understand that God is the ultimate government, and as the creator of the universe, He reigns supreme. He makes the decisions and lays out our path. Our job is simply to follow Him. When humanity disobeyed God and was cast out of the Garden of Eden, a wall formed between us and God. As Adam and Eve first did, people chose to follow their own thinking. Many turned to wicked ways. By the time of Noah in Genesis 5, all on the earth were wicked, and God decided to send floodwaters, wipe out all life on the earth – with the exception of those on Noah’s ark – and start fresh with the righteous few. But there were always people, certain leaders, who God put in place to guide the people. He spoke to Joseph, and Joseph saved the Israelites—God’s people—from famine (Genesis 47). God spoke to Moses, and Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt toward the Promised Land (Exodus 13). God spoke to kings, and battles raged and cities toppled. In the Ten Commandments that He gave to Moses, God set Himself as the highest authority (Exodus 20:1-3), but also commanded us to honor and obey our father and mother so we “may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you” (Exodus 20:12). Here, God was establishing a natural hierarchy—He was Number One, and second we were to respect and listen to our elders. Blessings would follow if we did so. Later, God spoke to the people through His judges and prophets, such as Samuel. This was their natural system of government. But as Samuel grew older, the people began to clamor for a king to rule them, not a prophet, so they could be like the other nations (1 Samuel 8:5). This saddened Samuel, for he knew God’s people were not like the other nations; God as their king should have been enough. God warned them to be careful what they asked for, noting when they rejected God as their king they would get an earthly king who would take their sons, their daughters, their land, and the best of their fields, and they would beg for relief (1 Samuel 8:8-18). But the people insisted, so God gave them what they desired.

In summary, God wants us to be obedient to Him and to the authorities. He has put governing authorities in place to guide us, and we should respect and listen to them. However, we should also be careful not to put our trust in earthly leaders, but rather in God, who is the ultimate authority.

Likewise, those authorities are supposed to rule justly and in His will. If they do not, they no longer have God’s authority.


88 posted on 01/18/2024 9:43:34 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: daniel1212

Very well said.

also:
“And if God did not let Hillary run for president, Trump would not have been elected.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So true.

And without the consequences created by Nazism, there would not have been any creation of Israel on May 14th, 1948.
Let’s think about this for a moment...


95 posted on 01/18/2024 10:21:29 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: daniel1212
Allowing his personal Christianity to be used against him in his role as a political leader in a Constitutional Republic, for the gain of the opposition.

Unprepared and naive for not seeing that one coming with a ready reply that Joe was put in place by he who comes to Steal (elections), Kill (American servicemen in Afghanistan) and destroy (countries).

Then ask them "What do you think of my Christianity now?"

100 posted on 01/18/2024 1:48:16 PM PST by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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To: daniel1212

If someone fails to believe the bible, then they can create any (or none) kind of ‘god’ that they wish.


118 posted on 01/18/2024 3:59:22 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

Remove me from the ping list and do not post to me again.


126 posted on 01/18/2024 4:47:33 PM PST by HonkyTonkMan ( )
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To: daniel1212

True, no leader is where he or she is without God allowing it. It doesn’t mean that God is blessing them or those they have authority over. It just means that His plan hasn’t been thwarted, since no one can do a run-around on God.

We have not been a righteous people for quite a while. We have to answer for that by seeking His forgiveness, mercy and wisdom. Just check the Old Testament for the rise and fall of Israel on more than one occasion.


127 posted on 01/18/2024 4:55:49 PM PST by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: daniel1212

I think We allowed Biden and his clan to allow their vertical graph and steal the election. I don’t know how Biblical that is or just how puss-nuts the GOP is for allowing it, allowing the borders to be opened, allowing good people to be jailed and allowing Trump to be impeached twice, forced to succumb to a cheat, and now getting raked over the coals in the justice system and just allowing it.

If anything biblical I call this the luke-warm days of Laodecia, going along to get along, surrendering because the country is full of fat, stupid, lazy, lukewarm fools who haven’t the balls to go out in the streets to protests jabs, climate lies, abortion, pro Israel, anti war and protesting all those jailed for no reason. Protesting against 1A or 2A or social credit score or illegal searches or even getting someone to initiates the 25th amendment against a sitting president( who was placed) that has no control of his faculties now his bowels.


130 posted on 01/18/2024 5:38:10 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: daniel1212

“And if God did not let Hillary run for president, Trump would not have been elected.”

No evidence for such a statement.


149 posted on 01/19/2024 8:21:26 AM PST by Wuli
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