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The Biggest Evidence for the Folly of the EV Push May Be Happening Right Now
PJ Media ^ | 01/16/2024 | Chris Queen

Posted on 01/16/2024 7:25:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Throughout the Biden presidency, there's been a constant refrain that eliminating fossil fuels will solve all our environmental problems. A big part of that narrative is the push to encourage, cajole, and force everyone into buying electric vehicles (EVs).

The disadvantages of EVs are obvious. They're more expensive than gas-powered cars and don't have a long enough range for traveling, but both facts are lost on the elite leftists who think that EVs are the answer to every question. The charging infrastructure is lacking, and it won't be sufficient to support extensive EV use for a long time.

Remember Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm's disastrous EV roadshow back in September? That debacle showed that most members of the urban-dwelling Democrat elite are blind to the impracticality of the EV push for most of the country.

But there's a huge flaw in the push for EVs that is playing out right now. It's called winter.

"All cars lose efficiency in the cold weather," explains Andrew Garberson at Recurrent. "However, drivers only really worry about it when it comes to electric cars, since the lower efficiency translates directly to lower range. For EV owners in colder climates, like northern portions of the United States and Canada, daily driving and charging behaviors must be adjusted in winter months."

It's a problem here in the South, too. I drive a plug-in electric hybrid, which means that I get some electric driving mileage before the hybrid gas engine kicks in. In the spring, summer, and most of the fall, I get about 17 miles of all-electric driving, which is perfect for making a trip to town without using a drop of gas, but when the weather gets cold, that electric mileage drops to between seven and 10 miles.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automotive; climatechange; electric; energy; ev; scam
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1 posted on 01/16/2024 7:25:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I just posted this in a previous article. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4210598/posts

Yep, batterer technology is well understood. Extreme cold significantly, as in massively impacts efficiency. Such temperature can wipe a battery out in short order or prevent and effective operation of it outright.

This has been known for over 100 years. The first modern batteries were created as novelties around 1810, by the late 1800s (1880-90 as I recall) man was creating functional batteries and discovering new materials for batteries, by the early 1920s we had most of the advantages and disadvantages well known and in common use for many households for things like flashlights.

LOL the advantages of making power for a living, you learn a few useless facts along the way.

The issues in the article are so predictable as to be embarrassing.


2 posted on 01/16/2024 7:27:32 AM PST by Skwor
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To: SeekAndFind

Do EV drivers support global warming?


3 posted on 01/16/2024 7:28:04 AM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: SeekAndFind

Meh. I’m not convinced. I think I’ll head on over to Hertz and pick up one of their 20,000 Teslas they’re trying to unload.

/s


4 posted on 01/16/2024 7:28:22 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Skwor

To use the tired cliches, leftist policy positions are not “fact based” or “science based;” they’re ideological. These problems will not deter them a whit. And if the market rejects EVS, they’ll just come up with new ways to cram down EV use on the market


5 posted on 01/16/2024 7:30:52 AM PST by j.havenfarm (23 years on Free Republic, 12/22/23! More than 8,000 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Those crappy EVs work so well in both heat and extreme cold... Chi-Congo's doing just fine with -30°...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/chicago-area-tesla-charging-stations-lined-with-dead-cars-in-freezing-cold-a-bunch-of-dead-robots-out-here

6 posted on 01/16/2024 7:35:13 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“All cars lose efficiency in the cold weather,”

That is simply untrue. A gallon of cold gasoline produces more energy than a gallon of warm gasoline.

Another missed factor is an ICE car uses very little energy to heat the cabin. An EV requires a lot making it even more inefficient in cold weather.

EC


7 posted on 01/16/2024 7:35:18 AM PST by Ex-Con777
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To: SeekAndFind

And the clock is ticking on the mass force feeding of electric cars.

In September 2022, Gavin Newsom and the California Air Resources Board decreed , that no new internal combustion Vehicles can be sold starting in 2035. A few other states are following California with that 2035 date. So are some European countries.

These decrees that we need to outlaw the internal combustion engine, are going to butt heads with the fact that the technology and the infrastructure needed to recharge all these electric vehicles just isn’t there yet.


8 posted on 01/16/2024 7:35:53 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

You can’t store energy. Same reason you can’t run a car on a flywheel.


9 posted on 01/16/2024 7:38:25 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Skwor

One winter in DC I had to keep warming up my cell phone next to my body to get enough juice to make a call. The battery would crap out being out of my pocket for a short time.


10 posted on 01/16/2024 7:40:02 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: SeekAndFind

Stupid is as… stupid is.


11 posted on 01/16/2024 7:41:40 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: Skwor

Many early “horseless carriages” had electric motors. There is are reasons why those early electric models did not succeed while gasoline powered vehicles did. So about 130 years later we are re-learning this lesson thanks to the “climate change” nonsense.


12 posted on 01/16/2024 7:42:41 AM PST by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s another quite cloudy day in my part of Florida.

It’s been that way for close to 50 days.

We’ve had strong winds, but they’ve been sporadic.

Fortunately, it’s chilly, but not cold today.


13 posted on 01/16/2024 7:42:55 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

Folly? It’s the perfect plan to cripple the US economy.


14 posted on 01/16/2024 7:43:01 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Avalon Memories

“The Ford Model T relied on hand cranks until 1919; during the 1920s, electric starters became near-universal on most new cars, making it easier for women and elderly people to drive.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starter_(engine)


15 posted on 01/16/2024 7:48:47 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

The original hybrid design by Toyota in the Prius seems to be viable. Can be fully electric, fully gas or hybrid.

We’ve been -10 actual and -50’s wind chill past few days. I would consider an EV an eminent death trap. Nature starts eliminating weak things at these temps. People, animals, buildings, tools; everything.


16 posted on 01/16/2024 7:50:51 AM PST by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

A few years ago I was tent camping at -7f. My phone and separate camera battery died even being in my pocket.

I think we had four cars on site with us. Only one didn’t need a jump start.

I can’t imagine ever being stupid enough to buy an EV


17 posted on 01/16/2024 7:51:03 AM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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18 posted on 01/16/2024 7:52:15 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: SeekAndFind

None of this is new information. It’s been well known all along. It did not deter the earth worshipers and the governmental fascist mandaters then and there is no reason to think it will now.


19 posted on 01/16/2024 7:53:25 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: Brian Griffin

That’s the starters, not the engines. Internal combustion engines quickly replaced battery powered engines.


20 posted on 01/16/2024 7:53:54 AM PST by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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