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Swedish alarm after defence chiefs' war warning
BBC News.com ^ | January 10, 2024 | Paul Kirby

Posted on 01/11/2024 5:46:12 AM PST by Timber Rattler

Civil Defence Minister Carl-Oskar Bohlin told a defence conference "there could be war in Sweden".

His message was then backed up by military commander-in-chief Gen Micael Byden, who said all Swedes should prepare mentally for the possibility.

However, opposition politicians have objected to the tone of the warnings.

Ex-prime minister Magdalena Andersson told Swedish TV that while the security situation was serious, "it is not as if war is just outside the door."

Children's rights organisation Bris said that its national helpline did not usually receive calls about the possibility of war. But this week, it had seen an increase in worried calls from youngsters who had seen news reports or posts on TikTok talking about it.

"This was well prepared, it wasn't something blurted out," Bris spokeswoman Maja Dahl told the BBC. "They should have provided information meant for kids when they come out with this kind of information for grown-ups."

Despite the starkness of the messaging, the remarks from the civil defence minister and military chief are being seen as a wake-up call.

After more than two centuries of peace, Sweden is a few steps from joining the Nato defensive alliance, waiting for a green light from Turkey's parliament and then from Hungary.

The commander-in-chief said his remarks were nothing new.

He visited Ukraine's eastern front a month ago and Sweden is one of a group of countries training Ukrainian pilots. Stockholm is also said to be considering sending advanced Gripen fighter jets to Ukraine.

"My ambition with this is not to worry people; my ambition is to get more people to think about their own situation and their own responsibilities," Gen Byden later told Aftonbladet newspaper.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: baltic; bidenswar; escalation; nato; sweden; war; worldwariii; ww3
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To: BlackbirdSST

“Do I need to write it in French?”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Even if you translated what you said to French, it would remain nonsensical. I don’t understand what you mean.


41 posted on 01/11/2024 8:54:24 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: Sirius Lee

Trump was already having a positive effect on NATO as he was strengthening it, reactivating V Corps and moving it forward to Poland, killing the INF Treaty, and rebuilding our Nuclear Forces against Russia.

Today, Russia has contributed to this stronger NATO by changing almost everything about it, more members, more countries increasing their military budgets and focusing on new weapons and weapon manufacturing, ending NATO dependence on Russian energy, and new more conservative outlooks and leaders on energy and military matters.

This is not the NATO of 23 months ago.


42 posted on 01/11/2024 8:54:30 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: gleeaikin

And the Prussians had a chip on their shoulder about that ever since.


43 posted on 01/11/2024 8:56:00 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: gleeaikin

“An interesting bit of history, it was the Prussians that turned the tide in the Battle of Waterloo, which the British systematically turned into their victory with successful propaganda.”

And it was the Hessians employed by the British that helped the British force G.Washington out of Brooklyn, into Manhattan and the across to New Jersey and Penn. Of course old King George came from Germany.


44 posted on 01/11/2024 8:58:45 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Sirius Lee; Wuli; USA-FRANCE; Widget Jr; Timber Rattler; BabaOreally

It is ALREADY happening as some countries give as much as 4% of GDP which is well above the recommended figure of 2% which has been neglected in the past. NATO is awake now.


45 posted on 01/11/2024 9:01:49 AM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority)
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To: ansel12
This is not the NATO of 23 months ago.

Yeah, the tide went out and exposed all the naked swimmers. 😂


46 posted on 01/11/2024 9:32:33 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Who knows what you think that cartoon means.


47 posted on 01/11/2024 9:46:41 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Why don’t you tell us what it means, Dr. Fraud?


48 posted on 01/11/2024 10:12:07 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Who knows, it’s just a lame meaningless cartoon put out by the Russian government’s propaganda arm, Sputnik News.

It was important to you and somehow was supposed to be a rebuttal, or correction, or something, to post 42, but I don’t know how.


49 posted on 01/11/2024 10:26:08 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
Lol!


50 posted on 01/11/2024 10:33:27 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Wuli

Agreed & Sweden ain’t even a member ofNATO yet😆


51 posted on 01/11/2024 10:59:39 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (Treason is the reason for Democrat Sedition & subvertion )
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To: Timber Rattler

I wish the article actually said who the war would be with. I presume Russia? But it should be stated outright, imho.


52 posted on 01/14/2024 10:16:44 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Timber Rattler
What could go wrong?

Granted, this was taken back in 2014. From left: Albania's Defense Minister Mimi Kodheli with her counterparts Jeanine Hennis Plasschaert (The Netherlands), Ursula Von der Leyen (Germany), Ine Marie Eriksen Soreide (Norway) and Roberta Pinotti (Italy) at NATO headquarters in Brussels.


53 posted on 01/14/2024 10:19:55 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush
Let's continue and persist in ginning up whatever massacre we can, wherever we can, so long as we're killing off Russians and... whomever else we manipulate into the situation as our proxy.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia, or some such thing.

54 posted on 01/14/2024 10:35:25 AM PST by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

It’s a tragedy that this war even took place in Ukraine, but the end game IMHO is a losing proposition for all.

NATO, Russia, USA - all will lose.

That’s the plan.


55 posted on 01/14/2024 10:37:07 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

Exactly. The only way Russia can take over any land in a NATO territory is nukes.


56 posted on 01/14/2024 10:43:56 AM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: USA-FRANCE
NeoSoviet Russia

Actually, if Russia were still Communist, all the lefties would still be adoring them.

57 posted on 01/14/2024 11:20:48 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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