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Swedish alarm after defence chiefs' war warning
BBC News.com ^ | January 10, 2024 | Paul Kirby

Posted on 01/11/2024 5:46:12 AM PST by Timber Rattler

Civil Defence Minister Carl-Oskar Bohlin told a defence conference "there could be war in Sweden".

His message was then backed up by military commander-in-chief Gen Micael Byden, who said all Swedes should prepare mentally for the possibility.

However, opposition politicians have objected to the tone of the warnings.

Ex-prime minister Magdalena Andersson told Swedish TV that while the security situation was serious, "it is not as if war is just outside the door."

Children's rights organisation Bris said that its national helpline did not usually receive calls about the possibility of war. But this week, it had seen an increase in worried calls from youngsters who had seen news reports or posts on TikTok talking about it.

"This was well prepared, it wasn't something blurted out," Bris spokeswoman Maja Dahl told the BBC. "They should have provided information meant for kids when they come out with this kind of information for grown-ups."

Despite the starkness of the messaging, the remarks from the civil defence minister and military chief are being seen as a wake-up call.

After more than two centuries of peace, Sweden is a few steps from joining the Nato defensive alliance, waiting for a green light from Turkey's parliament and then from Hungary.

The commander-in-chief said his remarks were nothing new.

He visited Ukraine's eastern front a month ago and Sweden is one of a group of countries training Ukrainian pilots. Stockholm is also said to be considering sending advanced Gripen fighter jets to Ukraine.

"My ambition with this is not to worry people; my ambition is to get more people to think about their own situation and their own responsibilities," Gen Byden later told Aftonbladet newspaper.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: baltic; bidenswar; escalation; nato; sweden; war; worldwariii; ww3
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The Swedes see the Muscovite storm coming in the Baltics.
1 posted on 01/11/2024 5:46:12 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

NATO’s slave states like Sweden must prepare to sacrifice their sons for the American MIC Empire.


2 posted on 01/11/2024 5:50:07 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

“NATO’s slave states”

Neither the old Pravda nor today’s Putin could deliver more stupid and slanderous propoganda.


3 posted on 01/11/2024 5:52:59 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Timber Rattler

The most unfortunate thing for Sweden is that they hung on to the misguided idea of “neutrality” far too long.


4 posted on 01/11/2024 5:54:41 AM PST by Wuli
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To: wildcard_redneck

But Sweden has all those military aged immigrants. Looks like they can give them all jobs in the Swedish Army.


5 posted on 01/11/2024 6:01:47 AM PST by MMusson
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To: Wuli
Some additional news from Sweden ---
Clashes erupt in Sweden’s third largest city after another Quran burning and at least 3 are detained Associated Press, September 4, 2023

Violent protests after Quran burning in Sweden BBC, September 4, 2023

Swedish PM summons army, police chiefs as gang violence rocks nation Reuters, 29 September 2023

The violent gang crisis shaking Sweden Financial Times, 19 November 2023

How gang violence took hold of Sweden Guardian UK, 30 November 2023

Sweden’s prime minister summons police and army chiefs, as gang violence surges CNN, 29 September 2023

Sweden's long-term growth at risk from gang crime, warns central bank chief Financial Times, 5 December 2023


6 posted on 01/11/2024 6:03:17 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Timber Rattler

After 2 years vs Ukraine the Russians are bleeding

It’s a slow bleed but nevertheless they are bleeding

It’s a numbers game

The Russians will not be able to keep
Bleeding if they try Sweden , Poland etc. it’s a numbers game

Russia won’t have the numbers. Let them try and end Russia once and for all


7 posted on 01/11/2024 6:06:05 AM PST by forYourChildrenVote4Bush
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To: wildcard_redneck

Russia has been threatening Sweden forever, not the other way around.
Sweden is no threat to Russia whether it joins NATO or not.


8 posted on 01/11/2024 6:07:20 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Timber Rattler

I thought Sweden’s biggest problem was:
“Sweden increasingly a focus for Islamic extremists, security police say”


9 posted on 01/11/2024 6:08:27 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Wuli

Bless your heart, you realize that Obamamama started this whole ball rolling in the 2014 maidan revolution. Since then many cities of Ukraine have been turned into rubble and hundreds of thousands have been maimed and killed. How is this working out so good!


10 posted on 01/11/2024 6:09:53 AM PST by armourenthusiast (I capitalize everything related to South)
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To: Timber Rattler

The Swedes are intelligent, practical people. We would do well to heed their counsel.


11 posted on 01/11/2024 6:22:05 AM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump. )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Sweden needs to take care of it’s own house first before hankerin’ for a fight with Russia, just to please the US. Or it can go completely Swedenstan - if it stays on the course it’s on.


12 posted on 01/11/2024 6:23:53 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

“After 2 years vs Ukraine the Russians are bleeding

It’s a slow bleed but nevertheless they are bleeding

It’s a numbers game

The Russians will not be able to keep
Bleeding if they try Sweden , Poland etc. it’s a numbers game

Russia won’t have the numbers. Let them try and end Russia once and for all”

This is why I believe NATO will attempt to provoke a full-scale war with Russia, those facts are well understood by NATO.


13 posted on 01/11/2024 6:42:34 AM PST by DEPcom (DC is not my Capitol after Jan 6th lock downs.)
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To: armourenthusiast

They don’t remember much. Even here on this board, it is astonishing. Ukraine is the second act of Obama’s pipeline war he started in Syria with U.S. troops a stones throw from a Russian base.
It is coincidentally the same year he defunded hyperviralization in the US as too dangerous. Now we know it was offshored so they could freely develop deadly viruses on their own voters.
It was a heckuva year for Obama and the globalists. I have to say, they are great at strategy.
.


14 posted on 01/11/2024 6:44:16 AM PST by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: DEPcom
"By the second winter, the boots had worn out... but the line still held. Even Comrade Lenin underestimated both the anguish of that 900-mile long front... as well our own cursed capacity for suffering. Half the men went into action without any arms... irregular rations... led by officers they didn't trust." - Yevgraf Zhivago (Dr. Zhivago)
15 posted on 01/11/2024 6:45:42 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Timber Rattler

[The Swedes see the Muscovite storm coming in the Baltics.]

I got all the way to the bottom of the excerpt before I figured out they meant Russians and not an internal war against their muslim “migrants.”


16 posted on 01/11/2024 6:53:46 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: wildcard_redneck; Timber Rattler

“NATO’s slave states like Sweden must prepare to sacrifice their sons for the American MIC Empire.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The comment you said above sounds exactly like one of the many anti-West narratives the hippies had in the 70’s.

What are you talking about?

So... according to you, any country in the world willing to defend itself against an ever-expanding highly bellicus NeoSoviet Russia is de facto a “slave”??

What do you call a country which just doesn’t care about being invaded then? A hero-country?

Since when are countries loving to PROTECT their BORDERS considered as slaves?

You talk about “American Empire” which isn’t annexing ANY country, while staying “loudly silent” on blatant Russian aggression which is invading and annexing nations all over the place...

Those who are the true slaves are the ones not condemning Russia’s complete disrespect for others BORDERS.

Rationalizing Russia’s warmongering and border-raping is insane.


17 posted on 01/11/2024 7:07:13 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: Wuli

What else would you call NATO members except subservient sources of cannon fodder?


18 posted on 01/11/2024 7:13:20 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Timber Rattler
War is right outside the door, Russia and Ukraine are not that far away.
Criminal gangs of immigrants are already in the country in significant numbers.

19 posted on 01/11/2024 7:24:35 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty)
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To: USA-FRANCE
The comment you said above sounds exactly like one of the many anti-West narratives the hippies had in the 70’s.

Look at you. You have to go all the way back to the '70's to take your dig when all you really have to do is look in a mirror and see a 21st Century democrat. Keep your white flag at the ready frenchie.

20 posted on 01/11/2024 7:26:29 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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