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If Trump had immunity as president, then why did Nixon need a pardon? What to know
palmbeachpost ^ | 01/09/2024 | Antonio Fins

Posted on 01/09/2024 12:02:15 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Edited on 01/25/2024 6:38:16 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

If Donald Trump is right that presidents have immunity, then why did Richard Nixon need a pardon?

Trump was in a Washington, D.C. federal courtroom Tuesday, Jan. 9 where his attorneys argued before an appeals court that the four-count indictment against him for 2020 election interference should be dismissed. Their position is that Trump, as president at the time, is immune from prosecution because he was carrying out official duties.


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To: ChicagoConservative27

If you spell Antonio backwards is he still uninformed .
Nixon was never charged


2 posted on 01/09/2024 12:06:33 PM PST by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism .)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Pardon stopped the witch hunt in its tracks. Whether he needed it or not became moot.


3 posted on 01/09/2024 12:07:58 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ford pardoned Nixon to end the hate and division and allow the nation to move on. It was a good thing and courageous given the blowback he predictably got from democrats. Whether Nixon “needed” a pardon is uncertain and still debatable.


4 posted on 01/09/2024 12:08:08 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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“What to know”

Translation:

What I want you to believe


5 posted on 01/09/2024 12:08:18 PM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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A lot of people were not happy with the precedent. But there's a worse one...

About 10 minutes before Bubba left the Whitehouse for the last time, an attorney stepped to the mike.

They had reached a deal....

but the most important part of that deal was that Bubba would never be prosecuted for anything that happened while he was President.

6 posted on 01/09/2024 12:11:49 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: South Dakota

He didn’t....


7 posted on 01/09/2024 12:15:58 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: hinckley buzzard

Ford’s pardon of Nixon may have caused his loss in the 1976 election which was very close.


8 posted on 01/09/2024 12:19:31 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Ford lost because of the Swine Flu vax debacle and saying that the Soviets didn’t dominate Poland.


9 posted on 01/09/2024 12:21:15 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Lets not forget about Chevy F...ing Chase


10 posted on 01/09/2024 12:25:27 PM PST by al baby (I know )
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To: South Dakota

Nixon = Evidence

Trump = No Evidence

Making up charges isn’t reality and the left is in high speed mode of making them up.

By rights the Biden crime family should be in prison by now democrat party mum in cover up mode.


11 posted on 01/09/2024 12:28:33 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: South Dakota

Easy, Nixon had an “(R)” after his name, and he was by far the worst Republican President ever (Genuflected to the ChiComs, killed the gold standard, introduced OSHA and the EPA, ..).


12 posted on 01/09/2024 12:33:09 PM PST by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ...)
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To: hinckley buzzard

True. One interview much later included Nixon saying (my paraphrase) “When I was told the Democrats were going to pursue civil prosecution I decided I wanted to spare the country from that against a President.”

This meant IF the Democrats successfully indicted him and won, not that it was a process with historical precedent.


13 posted on 01/09/2024 12:34:59 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: SecondAmendment

Watergate was a Democrat media creation but that other stuff, yeah, Nixon really embraced Statism and we cannot forgive that.


14 posted on 01/09/2024 12:38:27 PM PST by Prolixus (In all seriousness:)
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To: hinckley buzzard

At the time of the pardon most people thought Nixon’s resignation was sufficient punishment and that a prosecution was unnecessary, people wanted to move on. Also, comity existed between the parties then. Democrats got Carter elected out of the deal, and of course ‘President Malaise’ blew himself up enough to not get reelected. Reagan was so successful he got Pappy Bush elected, upsetting the usual pattern. Bush raised taxes after saying he wouldn’t, sinking himself with Republicans.


15 posted on 01/09/2024 12:46:48 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: Prolixus

Watergate was used to get mainstream America to accept the new radicalized Democratic Party.


16 posted on 01/09/2024 12:58:18 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Nixon won in ‘60. Wouldn’t fight the results for the sake of the country. 13 years later he did it again. What did it buy him in both cases?

Would Trump play that game?


17 posted on 01/09/2024 1:13:39 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: South Dakota

The answer to the question is that Ford pardoned Nixon to save the country from what it is now going through.


18 posted on 01/09/2024 1:15:56 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (Things are fraying my nerves!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Correct. Nixon resigned just before the 1974 mid-term election year kicked off in full force. In those days, it was after Labor Day, not the 24/7/365 cycle we have now.

The anger was pretty deep. Even though Ford made the right decision to pardon Nixon, his timing was incredibly stupid . . . right before the midterms. He could have waited a couple of months and suffered far less of a bloodbath than the GOP did.

The massive losses in congress led directly to our disgraceful retreat from Saigon the following April and the beginning of the Cambodian genocide by Pol Pot. Both events could have been slowed or possibly even avoided altogether had congress not immediately defunded his request to lay down artillery fire from our battleships to slow the advance of the Communist armies pushing south.

19 posted on 01/09/2024 1:23:08 PM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: South Dakota

America was still great then, or at least pretty good.


20 posted on 01/09/2024 1:24:44 PM PST by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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