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Andrew L. Stigler: Would Ronald Reagan abandon Ukraine to Russia?
chicagotribune ^ | 01/04/2023 | Andrew L. Stigler

Posted on 01/04/2024 10:33:26 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: hanamizu
In case you missed it, the conversation was about whether Reagan would have abandoned Ukraine to a Russian invasion.

So, the hypothetical on the table is about a post Soviet Union environment.

21 posted on 01/04/2024 10:50:03 AM PST by G Larry ("XFKAT" We can't keep spelling out "X Formerly Known As Twitter"!)
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To: OneVike

By the way, as for the Chiefs vs Steelers, the answer all depends on what rules.

Rules of the 70’s, the Steelers would put the KC players in the hospital

Rules of the 2020’s, the Pittsburg Steelers would all be ejected from the game for unnecessary violence.

Which is similar to the rules of the World today, vs the rules of the world in the 80’s

You can never ever get a good answer.

I know this much, if we fought the Vietnam war like WWII, then the North Vietnamese would have been wiped out the day after we officially sent troops in.


22 posted on 01/04/2024 10:53:11 AM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Stigler is a war college professor who was graduating high school when Reagan left office. Now he is wanting to explain to the world that Reagan was a war leader who despised Russia.

You see, that helps the professor’s job security.


23 posted on 01/04/2024 10:56:38 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up. And at the very moment young women )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

And the sudden collapse of democracy. We know they mean mobocracy using as many non citizens as possible.
I am just always shocked how people just follow along. Of course after 85% of Americans took the vax as soon as humanly possible, I shouldn’t be.


24 posted on 01/04/2024 10:56:45 AM PST by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Ronald Reagan and his son Hunter Michael or Ron wouldn't have been on the take from globalists through corrupt korporations in Ukraine.
25 posted on 01/04/2024 10:59:50 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: ChicagoConservative27

A bogus fantasy!
If Reagan (or Trump) was President, the russkies would never have invaded Ukraine...


26 posted on 01/04/2024 11:06:28 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

More stupid “what would Reagan do” projection.


27 posted on 01/04/2024 11:07:20 AM PST by PGR88
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To: ChicagoConservative27

In Reagan’s time, it was not “Russia”, but the “Soviet Union”.

Also, in that time, the Ukraine was under Soviet directorship, and therefore, none of America’s business.


28 posted on 01/04/2024 11:07:59 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ronald Reagan would not have gotten the US involved.


29 posted on 01/04/2024 11:10:11 AM PST by elpadre
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Russia can have Ukraine. They deserve each other, and Europe deserves them.


30 posted on 01/04/2024 11:18:35 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: All

Tippecanoe and Ukraine too.


31 posted on 01/04/2024 11:19:47 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (Prayers up for Jim Robinson and family ... an island of sanity in a sea of madness. )
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To: Pete Dovgan

Has there ever been a CIA-instigated coup, including the 2020 election coup that was ever beneficial to U.S. Citizens?


32 posted on 01/04/2024 11:20:44 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Only a matter of time before George Washington and Jesus get invoked on the Ukraine matter.....


33 posted on 01/04/2024 11:20:53 AM PST by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: Terry L Smith

“””””In Reagan’s time, it was not “Russia”, but the “Soviet Union”.”””””

Reagan and everyone else on earth knew that the USSR was Russia, and that is why Reagan was devoted to freeing the oppressed members of the Russian empire.

Look at what happened as Reagan weakened Russia’s power over the conquered, they peeled off and ran, they escaped.


34 posted on 01/04/2024 11:21:14 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Rhetorical questions like this are stupid. The world has changed dramatically since January 1989 when Reagan left office. Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union for Reagan’s entire adult life.

And Reagan must be rolling over in his grave after seeing the United States invade Afghanistan and then get its ass kicked out of there 20 years later.

35 posted on 01/04/2024 11:33:15 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
A different world under Reagan--none of this would have happened and no, he would not have involved us.

Now our problem is how to untangle ourselves from this mess.

And defend our own border! That, I'm sure Reagan would do.

36 posted on 01/04/2024 11:40:20 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: Darksheare

“He wouldn’t have instigated the war to begin with.”

Putin instigated the war. The opppsing view is Putin’s myths and excuses.


37 posted on 01/04/2024 11:54:34 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

“One problem. When Reagan was President, Ukraine WAS Russia”

That’s Rusian propganda. Ukraine was a constituent member state within the Soviet Union, it was not Russia.


38 posted on 01/04/2024 11:56:58 AM PST by Wuli
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To: MNDude

“U.S. Secretary of State James Baker, gave assurances to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not expand into Eastern Europe following the reunification of Germany in 1990.”

Myth. Even Gorby said so.


39 posted on 01/04/2024 11:58:34 AM PST by Wuli
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To: MNDude

Exactly.


40 posted on 01/04/2024 12:13:14 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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