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Supreme Court strikes down Reasonableness Standard Law, overturning a Basic Law Israel's Supreme Court makes historic move....
israelnationalnews.com ^ | 1/1/2024 | Israel National News

Posted on 01/01/2024 9:50:50 AM PST by Nextrush

...of striking down a quasi-constitutional law while Israel is at war with Hamas.

The Israeli Supreme Court this evening (Monday) published its ruling striking down the "Reasonableness Standard Law", the amendment to "Basic Law": The judicary which limited the court's ability to apply the subjective "Reasonableness Standard' to strike down Knesset-passed laws or government decisions.

This move marks a historic shift in the balance of power in Israel, as it is the first time the Supreme Court has ever struck down part of a Basic Law, laws which have quasi-constitutional status in Israel and were considered the source of the court's judicial review authority...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel
KEYWORDS: benjaminnetanyahu; hamas; whataretheirfrnicks
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To: Carry_Okie

How about state’s appointing their two senators and being able to recall them anytime they want? Because that’s how it was originally set up.


21 posted on 01/01/2024 10:54:42 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: Carry_Okie

Not the real problem. The problem is that the courts will not police themselves — kinda like the Catholic church and priests that violate their vow to their Gawd.
Courts below the SCOTUS routinely disobey SCOTUS rulings. But, SCOTUS refuses to do anything to FORCE the courts to comply.

E.g., SCOTUS passes laws on 2nd amendment and state courts and/or Fed courts just ignore it. Disobedient courts should be dissolved.


22 posted on 01/01/2024 10:56:14 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: NorthMountain
an enforcement mechanism

You mean, like Athena?

23 posted on 01/01/2024 10:58:52 AM PST by aspasia
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To: NorthMountain

đź‘Ťđź‘Ť


24 posted on 01/01/2024 11:00:05 AM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
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To: Ex-Episcopalian

This Israeli Supreme Court decision was leaked to the public the other week just like the Supreme Court abortion decision was leaked in advance in the USA last year.

The powers that be knowing the emotions attached to both so the early leakage to defuse tensions and shock early.


25 posted on 01/01/2024 11:09:21 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

Well, the rule of judges does come before the rule of kings.

Take heed, America.


26 posted on 01/01/2024 11:14:16 AM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show upqa)
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To: aquila48
The constitution is just a piece of paper.

... Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Are you safe? Are you happy?

27 posted on 01/01/2024 11:17:30 AM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show upqa)
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To: Carry_Okie; hanamizu; NorthMountain; Ex-Episcopalian; Nextrush

“How about two thirds of the State Supreme Courts over-ruling the SCOTUS?”

It’s always bothered me that a small group of unelected people get to make the final decisions.

I would prefer the following...

1. that the Supremes not be allowed to pass judgements on laws passed by the Legislature and signed by the president. IOW, undo Marbury v Madison. And...

2. That laws can only be passed by supermajorities of both houses of congress.

The rational behind number 2 is a realization that every law passed is a restriction of freedom - it defines what you can’t do or what you must do. I’m not an advocate of unlimited freedom - that would be the law of the jungle. But I think there should be overwhelming public support (greater than a simple majority) before our freedom our curtailed by laws. And that overwhelming public support can be represented by supermajorities of congressmen.

Every state should also follow this rule.

This change would drastically reduce the number of laws passed each year that saddle us with more dos and don’t. It would change our system from simple majority rule to supermajority rule.

What do you think?


28 posted on 01/01/2024 11:18:44 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Nextrush

Duh constitooshin is unconstitooshinal on account of we sez so. So dat’s dat.


29 posted on 01/01/2024 11:25:01 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: Nextrush

in addition to its problems with Fakestinian terrorist murder gang attacks, Israel is afflicted by a tyrannical hard-leftist court
(there can never be any genuine representative government (or even “democracy”) in Israel...no matter how highly this is valued by the citizens

so long as a runaway communistic court thinks it has the authority to over=rule basic laws enacted by the parliament (knesset) in response to vote of the citizens

I predict that..not now but when the IDF is able to finally get rid of the damn terrorists....one of the first things that Jerusalem will do is reform/replace this out-of-control “court”

remembering that just courts dispensing honest justice are a PRIMARY imperative of Judaism


30 posted on 01/01/2024 11:27:28 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Wuli

What the hell good does a SOLID constitution do when TYRANTS n robes don’t uphold it!! We have a very SOLID constitution YET it has become nothing more than toilet paper!!! NO ONE is doing a damn thing to uphold the document NO ONE!!


31 posted on 01/01/2024 11:29:42 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: NorthMountain

“do what’s necessary to enforce it.
Please elaborate.”

The other side’s motto is “by any means necessary”. It’s worked wonders for them!

We should adopt the same motto and apply it with the same vigor and zeal to promote and fight for our interests.

What’s depressing is, even though we have the numbers we lack the will.


32 posted on 01/01/2024 12:14:26 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: bobbo666
Courts below the SCOTUS routinely disobey SCOTUS rulings. But, SCOTUS refuses to do anything to FORCE the courts to comply.

You are ignoring the distrtibution of powers under Federalism and the dangers of empowering SCOTUS, as the Warren Court admirably demonstrated ordering States to redraw their Constitutions per Reynolds v. Sims or Baker v. Carr.

Concentrating power is an abomination to the Constitution. Nor is force necessary, as Natural Law competition does a dandy job of exposing such foolishness.

33 posted on 01/01/2024 12:24:40 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: cableguymn

How about state’s appointing their two senators and being able to recall them anytime they want?


State legislatures appointed Senators, but I don’t think they could recall them. Senators were originally in D.C. to represent the state governments. It’s the reason that it’s the Senate that ratifies treaties and approves appointments. State governments had an indirect voice in those decisions. No more thanks to the 17th Amendment.


34 posted on 01/01/2024 12:26:36 PM PST by hanamizu ( )
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To: aquila48
1. that the Supremes not be allowed to pass judgements on laws passed by the Legislature and signed by the president. IOW, undo Marbury v Madison. And...

Giving up Bruen or Heller isn't worth that.

35 posted on 01/01/2024 12:28:55 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: cableguymn
How about state’s appointing their two senators and being able to recall them anytime they want? Because that’s how it was originally set up.

Dumping the 17th goes without saying. Good luck finding 3/4 of the States to do that now. Nor does it do diddly about a rogue court.

36 posted on 01/01/2024 12:30:28 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Nextrush

Israel is not actually a democracy. It is an Aristocracy or Oligarchy of the Supreme Court. There is no Constitution to base decisions on so the SC bases its decisions on the “necessity” to retain actually total power.


37 posted on 01/01/2024 1:49:51 PM PST by arthurus (W covfefe -))
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To: Wuli

If thy had established a clear and concise written Constitution it would be Socialist through and through.


38 posted on 01/01/2024 1:51:39 PM PST by arthurus (W covfefe }-)
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To: Carry_Okie

With a 2/3 majority needed to pass a law, I doubt very much either of those would have made it as laws in the first place.

And when you consider all the other bad rulings the Supremes have done over the years, undoing Marbury v Madison should be a no brainer, provided you require supermajorities to pass any laws.


39 posted on 01/01/2024 2:03:03 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

Handwave.


40 posted on 01/01/2024 2:36:34 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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