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My long-time, excellent WF broker said last week, that he sees a "moderate" recession ahead in '24; I see something worse ahead, but I haven't ever slept at a Holiday Inn Express. Seems something is coming... we'll know when it's all over, I guess.
1 posted on 12/19/2023 5:00:39 AM PST by Carriage Hill
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It's like an Indian rain dance. Eventually, you know, it is going to rain.
2 posted on 12/19/2023 5:02:23 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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I'm expecting the disaster to hit in 2025, or more realistically, be so apparent that the most liberal liberals can no longer deny it.

Just about the same time that the Kevin McCarthy - Chuck Schumer - Joe Biden deal to not increase the national debt more than 4 TRILLION dollars in 19 months expires. That means all of the pandemic excess spending will be actually spent, so the real economy becomes more dependent on normal people spending their own money.

3 posted on 12/19/2023 5:06:47 AM PST by Bernard (We honor veterans who fought to keep this country from turning into what it now is. --Argus Hamilton)
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The federal reserve will do everything in its power to forestall the collapse into Trump takes office. That way they can pin it on him.


4 posted on 12/19/2023 5:09:51 AM PST by Sirius Lee (I am going to keep SPAMming the meme "I see Freepers bickering..." where applicable)
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Harry Dent has a serious reputation. And what he says makes sense.

On the other hand, economists have predicted 9 of the last 2 recessions.

I think Dent is right about a major crash. It has to happen. But he’s got the timing wrong. Our reckless friends in DC still have a few cards to play. They can still service the debt. They can still borrow and spend.

So not in 2024. 2030, maybe?


5 posted on 12/19/2023 5:11:46 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Which is why DC took a month long vacation.


6 posted on 12/19/2023 5:13:04 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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If the Deep State is smart, it is deciding on two options for the upcoming crash, which they have to forestall until 2025. The first is to let Trump win, so that MAGA can be blamed and its strength emaciated (cf. Herbert Hoover). The second is to have its stooge in power, so that they can immediately implement the revolution and complete the destruction of America.


8 posted on 12/19/2023 5:13:45 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Harry Dent and the chamber of poor returns

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harry-dent-and-the-chamber-of-poor-returns/

“The true story is that Dent’s success as a forecaster would be more accurately compared to the blind squirrel who occasionally finds an acorn — make enough forecasts and you eventually will get one right.”


10 posted on 12/19/2023 5:25:20 AM PST by JSM_Liberty
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MSU scholars find $21 trillion in unauthorized government spending; Defense Department to conduct first-ever audit

https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2017/msu-scholars-find-21-trillion-in-unauthorized-government-spending-defense-department-to-conduct


14 posted on 12/19/2023 5:34:44 AM PST by qaz123
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When the Civil War goes hot...sometime in 2024 we will naturally see a great economic crash as well.


15 posted on 12/19/2023 5:37:35 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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Damn...Joe “The Big Guy” had best get hot and get those printing presses rollin’. I don't know, but I been told M2 is droppin’ sorta like it did on previous occasions when inflation became deflation and prices were affordable; but nobody (except ol’ Joe Kennedy) had enough geetis to buy spit.
18 posted on 12/19/2023 5:45:16 AM PST by PerConPat (The politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.- Mencken)
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The crash will not happen as long as there’s a shortage of homes in the US.


26 posted on 12/19/2023 6:05:05 AM PST by rexthecat
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The dems need a manufactured recession to start after DJ Trump takes office. That way they can blame it fully on him.

They will gin up some kind of major crisis for 2024, like a disease, cities on fire, a show trial, a series of bimbo eruptions against DJ Trump, or something more imaginative.


32 posted on 12/19/2023 6:21:50 AM PST by I want the USA back (Democracy dies when you take away from those who work and give to those who won't. Khrushchev.)
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We are in the largest cash “bubble” in our history. Trillions in worthless dollars handed out like candy, in the name of “equity” and “recovery.”

The piper will be coming for his pay, sooner than later.


36 posted on 12/19/2023 6:31:29 AM PST by fwdude (.)
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I don’t claim to be a financial expert, but I’m surprised the whole financial system hasn’t collapsed already. I mean, we borrow nearly half of what we spend. I just don’t see how that can go on.


41 posted on 12/19/2023 7:05:59 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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Strongly disagree. Next year the markets are going to be gang busters. The Dow Jones Industrial will be above 40K by election day, Unemployment will be below 3.6%, lowest African American and Hispanic American numbers in history and inflation will be down to 2.9% by election day. Interest rates will drop substantially. Keep me Honest :)


47 posted on 12/19/2023 7:43:41 AM PST by wiseprince (Me)
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Then why hasn’t the stock market crashed?


48 posted on 12/19/2023 7:45:21 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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"The Sky Is Falling’ nuttery.
52 posted on 12/19/2023 7:49:53 AM PST by Republican in occupied CA (We had enough government in 1789)
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We will crash as a country in 2024/25!


53 posted on 12/19/2023 7:53:59 AM PST by Grampa Dave (You/We/Our Children and Grandkids are the carbon, they want to reduce.)
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“”I’m the guy that’s praying for a crash while everybody else is not. We need to get back down to normal, and we need to send a message to central banks,” he continued.”

The guy has an agenda so there’s that. Kevin O’Leary is right - you can’t time the market.

There will be downturns and crashes and they can happen at any time. Many see the problems but the timing of the final trigger can often be difficult to predict.

If it crashes so be it. I’ll ride it out like 2008-2009.


56 posted on 12/19/2023 7:58:37 AM PST by plain talk
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“I’m the guy that’s praying for a crash while everybody else is not. We need to get back down to normal, and we need to send a message to central banks,” = The taxpayers will bail out the banks again.


58 posted on 12/19/2023 7:58:48 AM PST by struggle
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