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Car Buyers Increasingly Owe More Than Their Vehicles Are Worth as Interest Rates Rise
Messenger ^ | 12/17/23 | Patrick Cooley

Posted on 12/18/2023 10:14:13 AM PST by george76

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1 posted on 12/18/2023 10:14:13 AM PST by george76
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Isn’t this the case beginning with the first month of buying a car (on loan)? The car depreciates drastically as soon as it’s bought, making the car loan “underwater”.


2 posted on 12/18/2023 10:18:20 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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>>Sandra Rivas, who is 38 and works for a bank in San Antonio,.. is $5,000 underwater on a 2018 Toyota Camry Hybrid and is tired of making $648 monthly payments on a loan with a 14% interest rate.
>>“It’s a little ridiculous when you sit back and look at the numbers,” she said. “It’s like how much am I paying you? And how has my loan amount not gone down?”

You’d think that someone who works for a bank would understand how interest works.


3 posted on 12/18/2023 10:18:43 AM PST by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~you/base)
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Yep. It happens immediately. It’s why I only buy used cars. Cars are a depreciating asset.


4 posted on 12/18/2023 10:20:25 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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Car prices rise: It’s bad news.
Car prices fall: It’s bad news.

The hankering for misery on the part of the press is a bigger part of the misery than many will admit.


5 posted on 12/18/2023 10:22:41 AM PST by babble-on
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So? What does being “underwater” on a car loan even matter? Pay it off, drive it ten years after you pay it off.


6 posted on 12/18/2023 10:23:39 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up.)
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To: AppyPappy

It only happens immediately if you have a small’ish downpayment - but it is true that the second you drive it off the lot it probably loses 20% in value -

I drive a 11 year old toyota tundra, which I bought new - hoping to get another 10 years out of it if I can. NO desire to ever buy another new car or truck.


7 posted on 12/18/2023 10:25:12 AM PST by qwerty1234
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This is why I drive a 16 year old Subaru with 240,000 miles on it.

New car prices are a ripoff. And “high mileage” cars are not what they used to be. You can get a reliable, high mileage car as long as there are records of maintenance over the life of it.


8 posted on 12/18/2023 10:25:28 AM PST by Hoboto (I blame Hippies.)
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648 a month! Wow! My mortgage payment is less than that. I looks like Sandra needed some help when she was negotiating and buying her car.


9 posted on 12/18/2023 10:26:23 AM PST by 4yearlurker (Arise and shine,and give God the glory!-A trail cook's morning call.)
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To: Tell It Right

I haven’t had a car payment since 1986.


10 posted on 12/18/2023 10:29:11 AM PST by exnavy (Grow your faith, and have the courage to use it.)
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So? What does being “underwater” on a car loan even matter?

It matters when a deer jumps out in front of your car, and the result is a "total loss". Your insurance company will pay "actual cash value" to cover your loss ... if that doesn't cover the remaining balance on your loan, you're responsible for the difference. Maybe you got some sort of insurance on the loan ... maybe you didn't. Be fully informed, choose wisely.

Give serious consideration to paying cash, if it is possible for you to do so.

11 posted on 12/18/2023 10:29:45 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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She shouldn’t have bought the hybrid. Nobody wants to buy a used car and turn around to spend thousands on a new battery.


12 posted on 12/18/2023 10:32:27 AM PST by packagingguy
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13 posted on 12/18/2023 10:32:47 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Tell It Right

Yes. It has always been that way. A new car is always worth less than the loan amount. Anyone who has ever bought a car knows this. This just the usual media fear spin tactic.


14 posted on 12/18/2023 10:32:58 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Roger that. We owe nothing on our 18 year old vehicles.


15 posted on 12/18/2023 10:33:48 AM PST by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: babble-on

And if there’s no misery they just make it up.


16 posted on 12/18/2023 10:34:03 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Oh I get you on that. But that could happen a week after you bought it. Paying cash is best, and making sure how your insurance will cover you is close second.

But I’m shaking my head at idiots who act like they expected to build equity in a car as though it was land or a house.


17 posted on 12/18/2023 10:34:45 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up.)
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The last car I bought was a 2005 Nissan Altima. I paid cash for it at the time because I had the money back then. I kept that car for almost 15 years, then traded it in to lease a 2019 Nissan Sentra. Three years later, I turned that car in to lease a 2022 Nissan Altima. I’ve had the maintenance package, and damage coverage with both. At 76, I’ll never buy another car. If I die during the lease, all my kids will have to do is take the car back to the dealer. End of story.


18 posted on 12/18/2023 10:34:47 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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And at 14%! Maybe her credit was mediocre or poor.

I have seen one fellow get a car loan at 25% because he had a very poor credit history and a credit score of about 530. After about six months of on time payments I helped him refinance to about a 14% rate.


19 posted on 12/18/2023 10:35:17 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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In 2020 we paid cash for our CX30.


20 posted on 12/18/2023 10:36:56 AM PST by Fai Mao ( IOStarve the Beast and steal its food)
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