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Moment warmonger Putin warns Ukraine 'has no future' while sipping champagne at Kremlin awards ceremony for troops - as fears grow Western support for Kyiv is fading
Daily Mail ^ | 12/10/2023 | MIRIAM KUEPPER

Posted on 12/10/2023 2:02:48 PM PST by marcusmaximus

This is the moment Vladimir Putin warns that Ukraine 'has no future' while sipping champagne at a Kremlin awards ceremony for troops as fears are growing that Western support for Kyiv is fading.

In footage posted to X, the Russian president assured attendees Russia's defence plans were 'working more and more competently', with the country's arms industry allegedly producing 'several times more'.

He claimed that meanwhile Ukraine was running out of weapons. 'They don't have their own foundations,' Putin added.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: lodi90

“Over 100,000 Ukrainians have died for no other reason than genocidal Russian Nazis have invaded their country and seek to, as Putin says here explicitly, erase it.”

Ironic that the Nazi have been the Ukrainians.


141 posted on 12/11/2023 1:08:59 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule#1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“Ukraine is DOOMED! DOOMED I TELL YA.”

Glad to see you guys are FINALLY starting to deal with reality.


142 posted on 12/11/2023 3:10:34 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: dforest

Yep comment as expected ... you Putin trolls hate fighting for freedom, unless its to give a Russian victory over Ukrainian and the rest of Europe. You people are not much different from the old German American Bund.


143 posted on 12/11/2023 3:24:22 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Reverend Wright

Ukrainians are dying on their own - no one is forcing them to fight. They could have surrendered on day one of your Russian invasion, but oddly they did not, have not and will not.

You Putin trolls, however, are all for encouraging tyranny around the world, as long as it means the US does not spend a penny to stop it.


144 posted on 12/11/2023 3:28:42 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

It’s not the USA job, or NATO’s job to fight “tyranny” around the world.

And if the nations of the West want to “fight for freedom” they should start with their own governments.

And the invasions they should worry about are the elite-planned deliberately allowed invasions by the Third World.


145 posted on 12/11/2023 3:39:50 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

It’s not the USA job, or NATO’s job to fight “tyranny” around the world.


Actually it is. Anything less is a gift to tyrants everywhere.


146 posted on 12/11/2023 5:05:31 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: The Louiswu

Ukraines used to have nukes and gave them up in return for promises from Ruzzia that Ruzzia would not invade Ukraine. Ruzzia invaded Ukraine AND armed Belarus with nukes.

Ruzzia abrogated the agreement.

Therefore Ukraine should be armed with nukes again. Just like Belarus.

I’m sure Ruzzia will understand.


147 posted on 12/11/2023 5:20:29 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Williams

Ruzzians aren’t too bright. Itz all the wodka theyz drinkz.


148 posted on 12/11/2023 5:23:24 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: ought-six
I told you that I came to those numbers using my brain you old fart. Perhaps you should try using yours. Never mind, you haven't got one.

You tell me where all of their military men they had have gone, and why they are having trouble manning a fighting force, that they now have to resort to conscripting women.

149 posted on 12/11/2023 5:35:16 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: PIF

In the words of Elon Musk “Go —— yourself” foolish liar.


150 posted on 12/11/2023 5:44:21 AM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

well swearing and personal insult isn’t much of a retort.


151 posted on 12/11/2023 6:49:13 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Robert DeLong

“I told you that I came to those numbers using my brain you old fart.”

Your brain is faulty, because it runs on emotion. You said that Ukraine has lost 500,000 troops KIA in this war; there has been NO evidence to support that...NONE whatsoever.

Your “calculations” are akin to those of Archbishop James Ussher, who — in 1654 — used his analytical “skills” to calculate the age of Creation, which he says began at nightfall on 22 October 4004 BC. His analysis is embraced by many “believers” and Young Earth Creationists.

Facts are stubborn things, kid; and they terrify you.


152 posted on 12/11/2023 8:54:21 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
My brain does not run on emotion whatsoever, but your brain absolutely runs on stupidity.

If you believe my numbers are faulty, then tell me where all of these military aged men have gone to, and why they had to resort to physically kidnapping them off of the streets, and now there is talk of conscripting women.

You have provided no facts as to the number killed, because there is no reporting of these numbers to be found anywhere. What we have seen is an abundance of propaganda. When you have to rely on propaganda, it's a solid sign of things not going well. But of course you will never accept that, because your head is firmly planted in a fantasy world, sans even an iota of reality.

As I have repeatedly said, show me the real numbers, and provide the sources from which you are relying upon. I guarantee that they are using estimates provided to them by completely biased functionaries who are devoted to providing propaganda in order to present a positive picture, which you gobble up without question because you are a gullible old fart.

153 posted on 12/11/2023 9:17:58 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

“If you believe my numbers are faulty, then tell me where all of these military aged men have gone to...”

You made the claim, kid; the burden is on you to prove your claim. You just can’t pull claims out of your butt and expect them to be accepted on face value, especially claims such as the one you made.

“You have provided no facts as to the number killed...”

I don’t have to; I didn’t make the claim: YOU did.

“...because there is no reporting of these numbers to be found anywhere.”

Then why did you make the claim? You just admitted that you pulled the claim out of your imagination.

What we have seen is an abundance of propaganda.”

On both sides.

“When you have to rely on propaganda, it’s a solid sign of things not going well.”

Which further sinks your claim.

“But of course you will never accept that, because your head is firmly planted in a fantasy world, sans even an iota of reality.”

Nice try, kid. That’s why I ask for evidence, because — unlike you — I do NOT live in a fantasy world.

“As I have repeatedly said, show me the real numbers, and provide the sources from which you are relying upon.”

YOU made the claim. The burden is on YOU to support it with evidence (and your assumption that 500,000 Ukrainian troops have been KIA is just that: An assumption; based on your own bias).

“...biased functionaries who are devoted to providing propaganda in order to present a positive picture, which you gobble up without question because you are a gullible old fart.”

You have lost your argument because you assume facts not in evidence, jump to conclusions, and rush to judgment. Because, kid, I don’t “gobble up” ANY assumptions. Some may warrant discussion; but I do not “gobble” them up. YOU, on the other hand, spew out claims based on nothing more than your wishful thinking.


154 posted on 12/11/2023 12:36:07 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Blah, blah, blah, and I still stand by number.


155 posted on 12/11/2023 6:33:13 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

“Blah, blah, blah, and I still stand by number.”

Of course you do, because you’re a cretin.


156 posted on 12/11/2023 7:50:39 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Robert DeLong; JonPreston
The new theme song for your opponent, The Kid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IBdZ645S-o

"Sundowner, ya better take care, if I find you've been creepin' round my back stair"

157 posted on 12/11/2023 8:26:55 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Robert DeLong
and now there is talk of conscripting women.

Heck, there are Ukrainian women in the front lines...

158 posted on 12/11/2023 8:29:14 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: ought-six
Well, prove my numbers are wrong. The fact that you refuse to, just proves you have no clue what the numbers are. However, you are sure that my numbers are wrong, but you won't even give your opinion as to where all of these males have disappeared to.

I sincerely hope that they were able to escape, rather than their fate being a grave, bad sadly I have absolutely nothing to go on to even fathom supporting a claim of that being their fate.

Surely you must have some source you hold as an authority on this topic, which makes you so adamant that my numbers are grossly inflated. Of course you refuse to provide your facts, because your only real goal is to make me provide something that doesn't exist. That's because those are the only kinds of arguments you can win. I was perfectly honest with you that my claim was my opinion, developed on the facts we do know.

Pat yourself on the back, because you don't look at facts, and yet you claim I run on emotion.

You may call me whatever you want, because you could never get under my skin with your childish name calling.

When I call you a useful idiot, it's because that is exactly what you are. You haven't a brain that exercises critical thinking skills, for if you did you wouldn't have supported our involvement in this conflict. We are not in a position to wage another long protracted military excursion after having engaged in two 20 year engagements that have taken their toll upon our nation, for which we have seen no positive results whatsoever. You wouldn't support a person who made an absolute fiasco of disengaging ourselves from the Afghanistan debacle, that Russia had gotten marred in that tar-baby also, when we helped them defeat Russia. That endeavor only created a future problem for this nation.

My only thought is that you support these fruitless endeavors, because you are heavily invested in the military-industrial complex and the money rolls in whenever our feckless leaders get us involved in these massive waste of resources that cause massive numbers of casualties that reinforces that the world stays in a perpetual state of chaos.

Enjoy your choices now, because it will not bode well for you in the long run.

159 posted on 12/12/2023 8:15:32 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Nice try, kid.

You see, when you make a claim, you have the burden of proving it. I have merely asked you to prove your claim. But, as losers usually do, when you can’t prove your argument you run away from it and try to make the other fellow support something he hasn’t even said.

“Of course you refuse to provide your facts, because your only real goal is to make me provide something that doesn’t exist.”

I love it! You have just admitted in that one sentence your claim was bogus ab initio. In other words, you have no facts on your side.

“I was perfectly honest with you that my claim was my opinion, developed on the facts we do know.”

No, you weren’t. You stated, in post #29: “Try 500,000 Ukrainian military personnel dead.” You didn’t say, “It is my opinion there are 500,000 Ukrainian military dead.”

You see, kid, no one knows how many Ukrainian forces are KIA. So, what we are left with are the projections of experts from myriad sources; and from what I’ve seen not one of them has drawn such a wild conclusion as that which you have made. And, kid, those experts extrapolate, as well. So, how is it, that you, the singular Robert DeLong, is more astute than everyone else?

“Pat yourself on the back, because you don’t look at facts…”

But, kid; I DO. That is why I asked you for a source to support your claim. Facts, kid; I was asking for facts.

“…and yet you claim I run on emotion.”

Well, you do.


160 posted on 12/12/2023 9:48:42 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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