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Car owner exchanges gunfire with would-be catalytic converter thieves in Miami-Dade: Police
NBCMiami.com ^ | December 6, 2023 | Amanda Plasencia and Brian Hamacher

Posted on 12/09/2023 4:57:48 AM PST by marktwain

A car owner who came across thieves who were trying to steal his catalytic converter exchanged gunfire with the suspects in a Miami-Dade neighborhood early Wednesday, police said.

The incident unfolded shortly before 5 a.m. at a community in the 8100 block of Northwest 8th Street.

Miami-Dade Police Det. Andre Martin said a resident was in his home when he heard power tools in the parking lot.

The resident saw two people under his vehicle trying to remove the catalytic converter, so he armed himself and confronted the suspects, Martin said.

“When I went out to walk my dog at 4:45, I hear power tools going off and I go 'what the hell is going on?' I lean over my balcony and I see two guys underneath my truck working to cut off the catalytic converter," owner Luis Vega said. “They got out of the car and they had the gall to come walking. They wanted their tools because they knew they had their prints on them and I said 'no, that’s not going to happen.' So I came back up and I took shelter behind the wall. They go along a sidewalk. One of them crouches behind a pickup truck, points a gun and cranks out two rounds but of course I already took cover. What did I do? I returned fire and they ran.”

Martin said there was an exchange of gunfire, and the two suspects fled the scene in a vehicle.

"At this time we do not belive anyone was injured in this incident," Martin said. "But our investigators are working to determine all of the facts in this case."

Doorbell camera video showed two men lurking around and eventually crouching under the car. Another camera showed the men running away followed by what sounds like a gunshot.

“To enter into someone’s residence or apartment complex overnight and to damage their vehicle and steal something that we all work so hard for especially during this holiday season is a very selfish and cowardly crime and it is not something that we as law enforcement will tolerate," Martin said.

The men didn't get away with anything from the victim's car, but detectives are checking if any other cars were hit as another man who lives in the area said someone stole the catalytic converter from his wife's car early Wednesday.

Martin also encouraged residents to not engage with suspects.

"If you witness a crime we encourage you not to engage with the subjects, please call the police and we will be there to assist you in this situation as fast as we can," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: automotive; banglist; catalytic; crime; defense; fl; florida; theft
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Thieves think nothing of doing thousands of dollars of damage in order to gain a hundred dollars for their pocket.
1 posted on 12/09/2023 4:57:48 AM PST by marktwain
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If there vehicle is nearby, good time to flatten their tires so they have to buy new ones.


2 posted on 12/09/2023 5:00:53 AM PST by Redcitizen
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To: marktwain

How long will it be before thieves see the value of swiping electric car batteries?


3 posted on 12/09/2023 5:04:10 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: marktwain

I would acquit anyone stopping thieves


4 posted on 12/09/2023 5:09:31 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Even thieves don’t want EV’s


5 posted on 12/09/2023 5:10:34 AM PST by Cowman
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To: marktwain

Three times in a row I read the title in the new feed as “Cat Owner...”


6 posted on 12/09/2023 5:10:46 AM PST by MortMan (I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

might as well steal the whole car...


7 posted on 12/09/2023 5:11:34 AM PST by stylin19a (Back when men cursed & beat the ground with sticks, it was named witchcraft. Today it's named golf.)
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To: Cowman

But remember, thieves are thieves because they are just ignorant and can’t do better.


8 posted on 12/09/2023 5:11:43 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: marktwain

Now that those cold blooded crooks know the man’s identity, they may attempt to retaliate against him. His identity and address should have been kept anonymous.


9 posted on 12/09/2023 5:11:59 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: marktwain
"If you witness a crime we encourage you not to engage with the subjects, please call the police and we will be there to assist you in this situation as fast as we can," he said.

BWAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!

10 posted on 12/09/2023 5:12:49 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: SaveFerris

Same here.


11 posted on 12/09/2023 5:20:37 AM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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To: bert

“But remember, thieves are thieves because they are just ignorant and can’t do better.”

I’m assuming this is sarcasm, but I believe thieves are thieves because they are lazy, greedy, evil-minded SOBs.


12 posted on 12/09/2023 5:23:32 AM PST by Gideon300
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To: Gideon300

No sarcasm and, you are correct.

Ignorance is the end result of being lazy, greedy, evil-minded SOBs.


13 posted on 12/09/2023 5:26:18 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Redcitizen

Flattening the thieves tires might be the only safe thing to do...then call the police.If you call the police just as the crime is underway, they might not get their in time & you will have a hefty repair bill at the best. I have an older car with a converter & found out that replacement would cost just about what they valued the car at. Soething wrong here as I’ve read that a converter’s actual valuable catalyst material is not nearly that much. The rest is mostly just steel. So...in other words what the thief receives is only a small part of what it will cost you for replacement. Try finding a shop that would weld a pipe in place of the converter & good luck. You may live in a state that has no inspection & get lucky. Here is an area where the feds could adjust to state laws on that, but good luck there too.


14 posted on 12/09/2023 5:27:33 AM PST by oldtech
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I believe thieves are thieves because they are lazy

Well. These ones are enterprising enough to take a sawzall and climb under cars in the middle of the night to steal the things, and then transact them later for profit.

That requires some effort.

15 posted on 12/09/2023 5:30:03 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: bert

As an example of ignorance and thievery,

Just a day or two ago, I received an email attempting to persuade me to pay a past due bill to Norton. I laughed at it because it was so terribly inept. The thief had no real understanding of what he was attempting. He did a fairly good job of copying some Norton sales stuff.

He failed because he was ignorant

He used his email. He was 28513@@#$%?college.edu. I sent a copy to the chairman of the college board of trustees.


16 posted on 12/09/2023 5:32:46 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: wally_bert

👍👍👍


17 posted on 12/09/2023 5:32:53 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: stars & stripes forever
How long will it be before thieves see the value of swiping electric car batteries?

Considering the weight of those battery packs (1,000 to 2,000lbs), that ain't gonna happen.

18 posted on 12/09/2023 5:34:13 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
When seconds count, the police are minutes away social workers are days away.
19 posted on 12/09/2023 5:36:12 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Soros on assisting the Nazis with the Holocaust: "That's when my character was made.")
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To: stylin19a; stars & stripes forever; Cowman; marktwain
How long will it be before thieves see the value of swiping electric car batteries?

Probably never.

As far as I know they have no scrape value.

The only way I can think of that you could make a buck is if someone was willing to pay you to steal a specific battery to replace a failed one.

And considering how heavy the batteries are, you would have to take a fork lift with you on the job.

20 posted on 12/09/2023 5:37:02 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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