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Hamas won’t free women who may reveal sex abuse in captivity, suggests US official...Spokesman suggests the recent truce fell apart because of Hamas fears over a PR disaster
Jewish Chronicle ^ | DECEMBER 05, 2023 15:53 | BY ORLANDO RADICE

Posted on 12/05/2023 11:39:30 AM PST by Red Badger

A US State Department official has suggested that the reason the truce between Israel and Hamas fell apart was that the terrorists did not want released female prisoners revealing the sexual abuse they have faced in captivity.

Under the terms of the truce, which collapsed last Friday, Hamas was to prioritise the release of children and non-IDF females.

Israel says 15 women still held by Hamas meet that description, as well as two children — Ariel Bibas, 4, and Kfir Bibas, 10 months, both of whom may now have perished.

“The fact that they continue to hold women hostages, the fact that they continue to hold children hostages, just the fact that it seems one of the reasons they don’t want to turn women over they’ve been holding hostage, and the reason this pause fell apart, is they don’t want those women to be able to talk about what happened to them during their time in custody,” State Department spokesman Matthew Miller told reporters.

Miller, citing sensitivities in discussing treatment of captives, declined to give details on the treatment of the women.

But he said that the United States had “no reason to doubt” reports of sexual violence by Hamas.

“There is very little that I would put beyond Hamas when it comes to its treatment of civilians and particularly its treatment of women,” Miller said.

It comes as Israeli film star Gal Gadot said on Monday that the world had “failed the women of October 7” amid a global campaign to highlight the silence of the UN and other women’s rights bodies over the brutal sexual violence carried out by Hamas terrorists.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Gaza; Israel
KEYWORDS: hamas; hostages; silenceiscomplicity
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1 posted on 12/05/2023 11:39:30 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

The United States should step up with Israel and give HAMAS 24 hours to release all hostages else face total war, including razing Gaza. Americans are still being held hostage, and we should not be standing by silent, we should not be accepting Biden’s hope for their release. We need to go in and hunt down and kill every member of the HAMAS.


2 posted on 12/05/2023 11:43:47 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: Red Badger

And we should be clear this is ISLAMIC rape and hostage taking. Every member of the Islamic cult should be challenged to condemn and renounce, else face sanction as accessories to barbaric murder, rape, and hostage taking.


3 posted on 12/05/2023 11:47:20 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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It’s assumed by many that the only way biden tries to get our hostages back is if somebody bribes him.


4 posted on 12/05/2023 11:48:02 AM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump. )
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To: HIDEK6

Maybe he’s trying to negotiate his 10% cut of any of the funds given to Islamic HAMAS to release the hostages.


5 posted on 12/05/2023 11:52:57 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: Red Badger
"A US State Department official has suggested that the reason the truce between Israel and Hamas fell apart was that the terrorists did not want released female prisoners revealing the sexual abuse they have faced in captivity."

And in other news, the DOJ and other affiliates are limiting access to detained J6rs because they do not want them to talk about the abuse they may have experienced in their detention.

See how that works, Feds?

6 posted on 12/05/2023 11:54:01 AM PST by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: Reno89519
Maybe he’s trying to negotiate his 10% cut of any of the funds given to Islamic HAMAS to release the hostages.

Pedo Biden wants 10% of the hostage girls.

7 posted on 12/05/2023 11:55:09 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Red Badger

...Hamas fears over a PR disaster


Like Hamas has any worries about PR. Have you seen/heard what Hamas supporters in the US believe as ‘their truth’? A group that happily videos the kidnapping ,rape, and beheading of Israelis as they are doing it doesn’t care about PR.


8 posted on 12/05/2023 11:59:53 AM PST by hanamizu ( )
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And college students march to support Hamas terrorists...

😳😳😳🙄🙄🙄🙄


9 posted on 12/05/2023 12:05:00 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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And college students march to support Hamas terrorists...

Offer them a one-way ticket to Gaza to take the place of the hostages, all expenses paid. See how they like it.

10 posted on 12/05/2023 12:10:36 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Red Badger

The pro-Hamas supporters won’t believe anything against Hamas even with audio, video, and eye witness testimony. Also Hamas would view the rapes as their right and not care about any potential negative fallout. So, I disbelieve this.


11 posted on 12/05/2023 12:16:53 PM PST by Whatever Works
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After murdering 1200+ people in Israel in front
of the whole world I don't think Hamas is worried
about bad publicity.
12 posted on 12/05/2023 12:21:42 PM PST by StormEye
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To: roadcat

Works for me


13 posted on 12/05/2023 12:39:54 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

My opinion is the Hamas types have absolutely no concern over public relations after seeing their outright slaughter of unarmed noncombatants in a Pearl Harbor attack on Israel October 7th has brought them pro-Hamas marches in major cities including a 300,000 person one in London on November 11th and several of 100,000 each elsewhere. Widespread celebrity and political support along with college students intimidating Jewish students with threats.

I believe the people who try to placate the Hamas types by avoiding a major battle are victims of projection. Like hostages in bank robberies and home invasions they think the criminal can be reasoned with as if they are versions of themselves who went wrong in life. NOT true. They turn around and slaughter the naive victims.


14 posted on 12/05/2023 12:57:47 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging.It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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You cannot negotiate with a religious fanatic............


15 posted on 12/05/2023 1:16:20 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

I suspect that many of the “hostages” have been neutralized.


16 posted on 12/05/2023 1:29:57 PM PST by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: Red Badger

“...terrorists did not want released female prisoners revealing the sexual abuse...”

This is stupid. Hamas doesn’t care that people know they have been accomplishing sexual miscondict. They have done this where ever they have gone and is consistent with terror groups and has been around for a long time. A good article on this is this:

https://www.icct.nl/publication/isis-and-sexual-terrorism-scope-challenges-and-misuse-label

ICCT:

https://www.icct.nl/about

So this little exercise is a waste of electricity. Everyone knows they do it, everyone knows it has been done for centuries, so hamas doesn’t care anyone knows. Just an opportunity to try to smear the actual lines of terrorism. And for what?

wy69


17 posted on 12/05/2023 1:39:07 PM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: Tench_Coxe

He just signed their death warrant if they’re still alive.


18 posted on 12/05/2023 2:13:01 PM PST by DeplorablePaul
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To: roadcat

Remember the stupid chicks who went to Afghanistan to be roadies for ISIS? They complained that everything was dirty and they had a hard time charging their cell phones for which coverage was mostly poor.
“WAH WAH WAH !! I want to come HOME!”


19 posted on 12/05/2023 2:41:58 PM PST by Senormechanico
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To: Reno89519

“Every member of the Islamic cult should be challenged to condemn and renounce, else face sanction as accessories to barbaric murder, rape, and hostage taking”.

They can’t. In Islam, rape of captive women is legal. Indeed raping captive women is part of Hadith, that is canonical Islamic Law. Recalling comments made during the Massacre of October 7, some Muslims might think raping captive women is required.

Some relevant references from a previous thread.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4197848/posts

IMPORTANT! WARNING: Violent and/or explicit images. Don’t access if you are of a sensitive nature. These images are horribly offensive.

Post 26 Rape images

Post 27
From Ali Sina’s book “Understanding Muhammad”. p. 39 Rape

Post 28
Raymond Ibrahim - Infidel Women: Islam’s “Spoils of War”.

Post 29
from: Violent Sexual Obsession and Rape as Expression of Islamic Spirituality


20 posted on 12/05/2023 2:54:32 PM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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