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These NATO countries have just three years to prepare for a Russian attack, Poland warns
The New York Post ^ | December 4, 2023 | Ronny Reyes

Posted on 12/05/2023 4:34:13 AM PST by Timber Rattler

Countries on NATO’s eastern flank have as little as three years to prepare for the likelihood of a Russian attack that could turn them into the next Ukraine, Polish officials warn.

Jacek Siewiera, the chief of Poland’s National Security Bureau, said a recent German report warning that NATO’s eastern bloc must be ready to fend off Russia within the next six to 10 years was far “too optimistic.

“If we want to avoid war, the NATO countries on the eastern flank should adopt a shorter, three-year time horizon to prepare for confrontation,” he told the Nasz Dziennik newspaper.

“This is the time window when we have to create a capability on the eastern flank that would provide a clear signal deterring aggression,” Siewiera warned. “The arms industry in Russia is working in three shifts [each day] and can rebuild its resources within the next three years.”

Since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine last year, the Kremlin has repeatedly alluded to encroaching on three Baltic countries in NATO’s eastern bloc — Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: ciapropaganda; europe; germany; nato; poland; whataloadofcrap
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Yep, the Baltic States are next on Putin's invade and annex list.
1 posted on 12/05/2023 4:34:13 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

This is silly

If we are to believe the press report of Russia’s failures in Ukraine, Russia is in a shambles and is being defeated.

How could Russia recover from this failure in only three years?


2 posted on 12/05/2023 4:39:25 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

Don’t question the narrative, support globohomo.


3 posted on 12/05/2023 4:47:36 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Roberor thert Heinlein)
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To: Pontiac

“How could Russia recover from this failure in only three years?”

You’re probably being sarcastic but why would they have to recover to succeed in an initial invasion of the Baltic States?

1) They have hundreds of thousands of Russians in the Baltic already - to act as a pretext and as a 5th column.

2) Ukraine is huge, but the Baltic States are all rather small. Even a less than prepared Russia could capture large stretches of territory and hold it in the Baltic States.

NATO is the reason this hasn’t happened already.


4 posted on 12/05/2023 4:53:48 AM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Russia is having trouble subduing little Ukraine so they are planning to enlarge the war to other countries that are probably better prepared????


5 posted on 12/05/2023 4:56:27 AM PST by odawg ( )
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To: vladimir998

I say set a trap for them. Russia can replenish their military stock in 3 years.The Baltics can do it without US help.

Please be aware that Russian capabilities have nothing to do with their willingness to invade. Call it stupid.

Hitler declared war on the US. That was stupid.


6 posted on 12/05/2023 4:59:17 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Pontiac

Putin and his cronies have made no secret of their desire to grab more land -

“Russian Official Proposes Invading Five NATO Countries”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4187089/posts

“Russian general says Eastern Europe is next, reminding us why we need to back Ukraine”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4181938/posts

“Russian State TV Lays Out Plans for New Empire”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4185887/posts

And, Putin is already gearing up for total war ... next year’s budget spends fully 1/3 on the Military

Nazis did this just before WWII also ... the warnings are all there, if you want to pay attention


7 posted on 12/05/2023 4:59:37 AM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe free of Russian invaders for 74 years - you're welcome!)
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To: Timber Rattler

He can barely deal with Ukraine


8 posted on 12/05/2023 5:02:17 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Pontiac

Land mines. Lots of landmines. Mine the borders, mine around airports, and rail facilities, mine open fields. Much cheaper and just as effective as more expensive missiles and ISR.


9 posted on 12/05/2023 5:05:23 AM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Justa

The Baltic states are no doubt very carefully surveying Russian vulnerabilities and developing plans to sabotage critical links in the Russian supply channels, command structures, and deal with Russian political leadership.


10 posted on 12/05/2023 5:15:12 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: Timber Rattler

Russia’s not going to go to war with NATO which it would if it attacked these countries. This revived domino theory BS from the Neocons is laughable.


11 posted on 12/05/2023 5:27:49 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Timber Rattler

“In 2023, Poland estimates it will spend more than 4% GDP on defense, which would be the highest proportion in NATO, as well as the highest proportion of the budget spent on equipment (over 50%.)

The country plans to double its land forces to 300,000. Huge purchases from abroad include 366 Abrams tanks and 96 Apache helicopters from the United States; 980 K2 tanks and 648 self-propelled howitzers from South Korea; hundreds of US HIMARS rocket launchers; many more Patriot air defense systems; 22 UK-made air defense batteries and three UK-designed frigates; as well as 48 South Korean FA-50 combat aircraft from and 32 US F-35 aircraft, complementing its existing fleet of 48 F-16s.

Meanwhile, it has made very significant arms transfers to Ukraine, including MiG-29 jets, modernized T-72 tanks, and Krab 155-mm self-propelled howitzers.”


12 posted on 12/05/2023 5:42:19 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Timber Rattler

If NATO wasn’t involved with fighting climate it would destroy Russia very quickly


13 posted on 12/05/2023 5:42:42 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: Timber Rattler

About time they defend themselves instead of American boys dying defending them.


14 posted on 12/05/2023 5:46:45 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Timber Rattler
Maybe they should have thought of that scenario before.


15 posted on 12/05/2023 5:52:47 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: mrmeyer
From the article:

"Landsbergis said the West needs to be united in preparing for a possible Russian attack, warning that if nations along the eastern bloc are left to fend for themselves, they will fall."

Note the Democrat-style "palm the ace." NATO has always been "united in preparing." It's just that somehow that "preparing" over decades didn't seem to get them prepared.

Recall Trump congratulating NATO on their expensive new building, and the press complaining? Recall Trump pointing out that many larger NATO countries were not spending their target 2% of budget for defense? And getting hammered in the press for that? Remember the Hillary Clinton amplified Russia-gate accusations against Trump? Remember Clinton's "reset" button?

NATO is getting prepared to fight. ---- To fight climate change....

NATO steps up work on climate change and security, 12-Jul.-2023 12 July 2023

Implementing NATO's Climate Security Agenda: Challenges Ahead 10 August 2023

Why NATO Now Considers Climate Change as a Security Issue 12 September 2023

All that is needed is a lot more money AND a lot more restrictions for the free world....
16 posted on 12/05/2023 5:55:49 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Timber Rattler

Isn’t that NATOs job to be prepared to defend and or repel a Russian attack? How much cash has the US spent in helping NATO be prepared only to find out now that they may not be ready?!


17 posted on 12/05/2023 5:57:49 AM PST by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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These bizarre stories perpetually fail when facing the critical reality — Europe has nothing the Russians want.

They have enormous oil. Europe has only Norway’s dwindling amounts. They have enormous gas. Europe has only the same dwindling quantities.

Russia has food. That oil fuels big tractors and their domestic fertilizer sources. Europe imports that.

Russia builds their own cars (or imports Chinese cars, as does Europe). Russia builds it’s own appliances, or imports from Korea or China, as does Europe.

Europe outsourced manufacturing to China. Russia has not done that.

So this insane presumption of the big Russian threat of invasion has no underpinning. They have the oil and gas. Theirs will run out last. It is not they who will be desperate for such things.


18 posted on 12/05/2023 6:09:54 AM PST by Owen (.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Baltic nazis gonna get got!


19 posted on 12/05/2023 6:17:20 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: ansel12
Enjoyed the quotation without citation.

The citation is: Poland Becomes a Defense Colossus CEPA, 28 September 2023

CEPA tells of the Obama-appointed author on that same page: Ambassador Paul Jones (ret.) is a Distinguished Fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA). He was US Ambassador to Poland (2015-18), US Ambassador to Malaysia (2010-13), and Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State in the Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs (2013-15). He was also Vice President for International Government Relations at Raytheon Technologies (2020-23).

A more extensive bio: Paul W. Jones / US Department of State

And some of Jones' work: Lobbying World: Former ambassador to join Squire Patton Boggs 26 October 2023

Meanwhile Germany is barely at NATO standards, after years of promising more. In a comparison:

In descending order and real comparative numbers (Wiki), the list from most and down from that, 1) United States, 738 billion USD; 2) China, 193.3 billion USD; 3) India, 64.1 billion USD equivalent; 4) United Kingdom. 61.3 billion USD equivalent; 5) Russia, 60.6 billion USD equivalent; 6) Germany, 51.3 billion USD equivalent; 7) France, 56.8 USD equivalent; 8) Japan, 49/7 billion USD equivalent; 9) Saudi Arabia, 48/5 USD equivalent; 10) South Korea, 40.4 billion USD equivalent....
Poland's "colossus" in Jones' lobbying parlance will still not near the top ten. Nifty marketing vocabulary, though.

And besides, since Ukraine's government wants the European armaments business there, Poland's stance would interestingly compete with Ukraine's. Duda is most recently out; Tusk is in after the Polish election. One waits to see what the new Polish government will do. Time will tell.

20 posted on 12/05/2023 6:19:07 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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