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Aging societies more vulnerable to collapse
Science Daily ^

Posted on 12/03/2023 7:17:00 AM PST by FarCenter

Societies and political structures, like the humans they serve, appear to become more fragile as they age, according to an analysis of hundreds of pre-modern societies. A new study, which holds implications for the modern world, provides the first quantitative support for the theory that the resilience of political states decreases over time.

Triggers of societal collapse have been well studied and vary from conquest and coups to earthquakes and droughts.

This new study shows that pre-modern states faced a steeply increasing risk of collapse within the first two centuries after they formed.

The research identifies several mechanisms that could drive these aging effects.

Some of the mechanisms, like environmental degradation and growing economic inequality, are still at work today.

The findings, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, highlight the need to understand internal processes that may contribute to the demise of states, says SFI External Professor Tim Kohler (Washington State University).

"We tend to concentrate on external drivers such as drought or catastrophes. Yes, these have a role, but often they are just triggers that are effective, or not, depending on the internal dynamics of particular societies," says Kohler.

How states and great powers rise and fall has been an enigma that has puzzled historians for years.

In this study, the researchers looked at this question from a new angle, by analyzing longevity in 324 pre-modern states spanning five millennia.

In humans, the risk of dying doubles approximately every 6-7 years after infancy.

As that exponential process compounds with great age, few people survive more than 100 years.

The authors show that it works differently for states. Their risk of termination rises steeply over the first two centuries but then levels off, allowing a few to persist much longer than usual.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


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1 posted on 12/03/2023 7:17:00 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

That’s why Japan never made it as a country.


2 posted on 12/03/2023 7:21:04 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: FarCenter

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT6Y5JJPKe_JDMivpKgVXew

The Fall of Civilizations is a good series of videos.

There are some common factors and some not. But several things coming togethers are common.

Very much worth your time.


3 posted on 12/03/2023 7:27:18 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: FarCenter

It’s what happened to the Greeks.

The Romans just walked in. “Cities of statues and not people.”


4 posted on 12/03/2023 7:27:18 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: ansel12

Y’all realize that we are living in a competing soup of propaganda. Just a few years ago when President Trump was in charge, the sky was the limit. Now all of a sudden, America is declining just like crazy joe biden and we are all doomed.


5 posted on 12/03/2023 7:30:41 AM PST by armourenthusiast (I capitalize everything related to South)
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To: armourenthusiast

I’ve heard that Japan has been around for quite a while.

America is more than declining, it has already ended, its population has been overcome, and is approaching complete replacement.


6 posted on 12/03/2023 7:37:14 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

I believe Japan’s society has been completely altered a couple of times in the last 170 years.


7 posted on 12/03/2023 7:37:42 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: armourenthusiast

I guess it’s good then that SloJo has let in all those young illegals, especially the men.


8 posted on 12/03/2023 7:38:50 AM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: FarCenter

So the decay of civilization is just one of those things like an occasional rain shower? How did Egyptian Civilization last so long? Hint: Religion. When the one thing holding it all together gets destroyed it all falls apart.


9 posted on 12/03/2023 7:39:00 AM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: armourenthusiast

If the country survives joe Biden and party Trump is the only answer to keep America alive.

Socialism and Marxist rulers must and will be eliminated from power the public has had enough of the taste of it.


10 posted on 12/03/2023 7:40:09 AM PST by Vaduz (....)
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To: MCF

One thing about the Japanese is that they are still the Japanese.

Ireland could go through changes but they remained the Irish, until recently.


11 posted on 12/03/2023 7:49:19 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: FarCenter

I WANT “REPARATIONS” FROM SLOJO THE PEDO AND HIS DUNG BEETLE PARTY FOR WHAT HE AND HE GOONS HAVE DONE TO MY COUNTRY. AMERICA WAS ONCE A GREAT COUNTRY AND I DON’T NEED JACKASSES WHO WEREN’T EVEN BORN BEFORE THE DUNG BEETLES TORE IT DOWN TO TELL ME IT WASN’T.


12 posted on 12/03/2023 8:15:11 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It wasn't "genocide" when Hamas did it. Hypocrites!!!)
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To: All

How many decades of “population explosion” propaganda had we have to deal with? Well It’s time to do the opposite but there is no quick fix to the problem and importing foreigners isn’t going to work since they are a net drain on society economically (and that’s ignoring the cultural problems they bring)


13 posted on 12/03/2023 8:39:36 AM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: FarCenter

ABORTION KILLS FUTURE GENERATIONS.


14 posted on 12/03/2023 9:50:14 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: FarCenter

You mean a society needs a lot of young (replacement) people to keep working???

Who knew, right?


15 posted on 12/03/2023 9:51:51 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why, certainly! Consider how much Rome benefited from all those energetic young Vandals and Goths...oh, wait...


16 posted on 12/03/2023 9:56:40 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I meant THEIR OWN young people, but you probably knew that already.


17 posted on 12/03/2023 9:57:32 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Yup, I was actually thinking of all those energetic young men currently flowing over our southern border.
18 posted on 12/03/2023 10:00:54 AM PST by Billthedrill
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