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IDF commanders ignored lookouts' warnings over Hamas massacre - report
The Jerusalem Post ^ | NOVEMBER 19, 2023

Posted on 11/19/2023 2:05:33 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

IDF lookouts who had warned their commanders that they were concerned about the situation along the Gaza border in the months before the October 7 attack were told to stop bothering them and even threatened with a court-martial, N12 reported on Saturday.

According to the report, the lookouts warned that they had seen unusual training and other actions taking place next to the border, with more and more people suddenly getting near the fence in the months leading up to the attack.

The lookouts felt that they weren't being heard; one of them decided to go directly to a senior commander in the area and was told "I don't want to hear again about this nonsense. If you all bother us again with these things, you'll be court-martialed."

N12 additionally reported on Saturday that lookouts who served along the Gaza border are not receiving psychological help from the army and were recently told that they would need to return to service within two weeks or be transferred elsewhere.

"The IDF and its commanders accompany all the soldiers who were present at the events of October 7 closely and sensitively," the military told N12 in response to the report.

(Excerpt) Read more at m.jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Israel
KEYWORDS: 20231007; cheapskate; courtmartial; donatefreerepublic; hamas; hamasmassacre; idf; israel; jimknowsdonors; oct7; october7; tightwad; war
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To: jjotto

“..Israel defense and intelligence were too busy trying to overthrow the Netanyahu government..”

As is the CIA, State Department and the Obama/Biden cabal.


21 posted on 11/19/2023 2:33:48 PM PST by elpadre
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To: lurk

‘It’s a historic norm. Watchers in outposts are low in rank, so when they call in a warning their superiors disregard them. See D Day and Pearl Harbor.”

A couple from the Civil War. The jittery colonel at Shiloh. Sherman told him to shut up or go back to Ohio. Sickles at Chancellorsville saw Jackson’s flank march, warned Hooker and was told the rebels were retreating.


22 posted on 11/19/2023 2:36:07 PM PST by rxh4n1
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To: Dr. Franklin

Orthodox anything

Is the dnc enemy

Russia - Israel - republicans


23 posted on 11/19/2023 2:37:04 PM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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To: ChronicMA

While I agree organizations today are more about politics than they are about doing their jobs, I suspect the real problem was normalcy bias. The Israelis thought any attack would be stupid as they supply the power and water and allow the food and supplies to go into Gaza. They’d reason that any attack would be idiocy therefore there wouldn’t be an attack. They’ve been told all about the need for diversity and to accept people who are different. The assumption is that those people who are different are exactly the same as you but have a different color or religion. But none of that matters because...COEXIST. I doubt you’d see that bumper sticker in Gaza. I only see it on cars around my local campus.


24 posted on 11/19/2023 2:37:40 PM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: jjotto

Israel defense and intelligence were too busy trying to overthrow the Netanyahu government.

a definite possibility...


25 posted on 11/19/2023 2:38:11 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: rxh4n1

Billy Mitchell

Predicted the pearl harbor attack

In 1922

He was court martialed


26 posted on 11/19/2023 2:40:10 PM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yes, Hamas was the JV team.


27 posted on 11/19/2023 2:44:54 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: gloryblaze

Just got promoted to Varsity.


28 posted on 11/19/2023 2:48:23 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Gen.Blather
They’ve been told all about the need for diversity and to accept people who are different. The assumption is that those people who are different are exactly the same as you but have a different color or religion.

I doubt the IDF tells them this. The U.S. Army might, the EU might, but not the IDF, or Russia, China, or Iran.

29 posted on 11/19/2023 2:49:47 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: Obadiah

Custer’s scouts tried to warn him too. Common sense not taught at West Point...then or now.


30 posted on 11/19/2023 2:52:18 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What happened on Oct 7th was all about getting rid of BiBi..the ones in Israel who hate his guts needed something to be done in order to get rid of him permanently so that he could never win another election, a stain on his name so they ignored everything, looked the other way while Hamas trained in front of their eyes


31 posted on 11/19/2023 2:53:11 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: jjotto

“We failed in our most important mission, and as the head of the Military Intelligence Directorate, I bear full responsibility for the failure.”…

The Chief meaning one derives from this statement lately is “aren’t I noble for saying it”?


32 posted on 11/19/2023 2:53:49 PM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Bonemaker

Indeed. Good point.


33 posted on 11/19/2023 2:54:31 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: MinorityRepublican

Hell, U.S. intelligence told American troops in Korea that the Chinese would not cross the border when those troops called in to report being under attack by the Chinese.


34 posted on 11/19/2023 2:59:06 PM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: Firehath

In war time, difficult decisions are made.

Sometimes you must let people die, and punish people who get in your way so you can get support for your goal.


35 posted on 11/19/2023 3:01:25 PM PST by algore
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To: TalBlack

If everyone accepts responsibility, then no one accepts responsibility.

A lot of these senior officials have long records of hating God, Judaism and all of the moral basis of Western Civilization.


36 posted on 11/19/2023 3:02:19 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Egypt warned them too, but they deny it.

The warnings were deliberately ignored. Deliberate escalations…even funded.


37 posted on 11/19/2023 3:02:34 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: algore

Sitting ducks

Decoys

Hillary says

Just egg shells - omelets


38 posted on 11/19/2023 3:05:57 PM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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To: Dr. Franklin

No both states knew and this was a coup against netenyahu.


39 posted on 11/19/2023 3:07:47 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LOBALISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: Gen.Blather

“The Israelis thought any attack would be stupid as they supply the power and water and allow the food and supplies to go into Gaza.”

________

Utter BS. You propose the Israelis all of a sudden had reason to let their guard down and offer up a most ridiculous scenario for them doing so. Blundering.


40 posted on 11/19/2023 3:08:33 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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