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Kazakh president uses language to deliver a surprising message to Russia {Nov 10 2023
Eurasian times ^ | November 10th, 2023 | Justin Burke

Posted on 11/17/2023 10:14:10 PM PST by Cronos

Kazakhstan’s president, Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, hosted routine talks with Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Astana on November 9. At the customary, post-meeting press conference, Tokayev said little that was new, yet his delivery marked a notable departure from the past. He opened his remarks in Kazakh, not Russian.

Tokayev’s rhetoric included the usual platitudes concerning the strength of bilateral relations, which he said were underpinned by “unshakable values of mutual respect and trust.” He went on to “confirm Kazakhstan is committed to the strategic direction of further strengthening comprehensive cooperation with Russia.” But in making top Russian officials in attendance, including Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov, reach for their translation devices, Tokayev sent a clear signal to the Kremlin: the dynamics of the relationship are shifting as the Ukraine war plays out. Russia needs to actually respect Kazakhstan’s sovereignty, in deeds not just words, and adjust its imperial mindset.

Putin likely rankled his host by mispronouncing the Kazakh president’s name on several occasions in Astana, at one point calling him “Kemel Jomartovich.” It was not the first such flub for Putin, who previously has called Tokayev – whose patronymic is Kemeluly (or Russified, Kemelovich) – “Kemel Jomartovich,” as well as mangling the Kazakh president’s patronymic in a variety of other ways, Tokayev’s use of Kazakh may have been his way of offsetting Putin’s disses with a diss of his own.

Tokayev has walked a fine diplomatic line during the Ukraine war, striving to keep both the West and Russia satisfied. While repeatedly striving to reassure Russia that Kazakhstan is a good neighbor, he has told Western leaders, including German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, that Kazakhstan is committed to enforcing economic sanctions against Russia.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: astana; dmitrypeskov; germany; globalisthorseplop; globalistpropaganda; kassymjomarttokayev; kazakhstan; kemeljomartovich; olafscholz; putin; putinsucks; russia; russiasucks; sergeilavrov; ukraine; zeepers
"in making top Russian officials in attendance, including Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov, reach for their translation devices, Tokayev sent a clear signal to the Kremlin: the dynamics of the relationship are shifting as the Ukraine war plays out. Russia needs to actually respect Kazakhstan’s sovereignty, in deeds not just words, and adjust its imperial mindset."
1 posted on 11/17/2023 10:14:10 PM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Putin doesn’t draw conclusions from his mistakes. He has tried to be arrogant, disrespectful, threatened neighbours, invaded neighbours.

Russia then wonders why no one wants to be part of their “sphere of influence”.


2 posted on 11/17/2023 10:19:17 PM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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Putin looked like a lost old man when he was mis-pronouncing Tokayev’s name

Plus with his paranoia, we really gotta wonder about his mental health, all those years of taking roids appear to have messed up his mind


3 posted on 11/17/2023 10:27:04 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

I wonder if we will ever be able to refer to someone as Bidenesque or Putinesque?


4 posted on 11/17/2023 10:43:56 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Cronos
When are you going to the front? You're right next door. If anything, you're embracing all the men escaping from the front.

5 posted on 11/18/2023 1:26:34 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
When are you going to the front?

How is that any of your concern?


6 posted on 11/18/2023 1:44:54 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
How is that any of your concern?

Does it concern you that your prime minister celebrates Nazis in parliament and loves Hamas?

7 posted on 11/18/2023 1:49:05 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

This thread is about Kazahkstan, not Canada

try to stay on topic


8 posted on 11/18/2023 1:51:55 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
This thread is about Kazahkstan, not Canada

I have visited both Kazakstan and Canada. Canada sucks a lot more than Kazakstan.

9 posted on 11/18/2023 2:31:07 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Cronos
Tokayev sent a clear signal to the Kremlin: the dynamics of the relationship are shifting as the Ukraine war plays out. Russia needs to actually respect Kazakhstan’s sovereignty, in deeds not just words, and adjust its imperial mindset.

Decline in Russian power and influence.

10 posted on 11/18/2023 2:48:20 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Good, stay far away

We’re a better country without you


11 posted on 11/18/2023 5:14:03 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Right_Wing_Madman; Cronos
When are you going to the front?

No worries...the front is coming to him.

12 posted on 11/18/2023 6:31:04 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck; Cronos

>>>No worries...the front is coming to him<<<

Cronos lives in Poland, the same place that President Trump moved the European headquarters of V Corps to when he reactivated it to defend NATO against Russia.


13 posted on 11/18/2023 7:07:34 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

The question is more when you are getting your draft papers for your Russian army.

I’m not Ukrainian.


14 posted on 11/18/2023 2:40:25 PM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: mac_truck

Not a chance Ivan. Your troops have been crushed by the Ukrainians themselves.


15 posted on 11/18/2023 2:41:12 PM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Cronos
😨😨😨


16 posted on 11/18/2023 3:12:31 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: canuck_conservative; Cronos; Timber Rattler; MeganC; PIF; tlozo; ought-six; SeekAndFind; ...

Regarding the “Is Putin dead?” question. I wonder if this Putin has stumbled over the Khazak leaders name in past visits or if this is a new development. If the visits there have only been by Putin substitutes, or if this was possibly the first such visit and new mistakes, it could hint at the Putin death question.


17 posted on 11/18/2023 9:38:25 PM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority)
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If the visits there have only been by Putin substitutes, or if this was possibly the first such visit and new mistakes, it could hint at the Putin death question.

it was the Double who does all events, as Putin has been too sick and paranoid to leave his safe spaces.


18 posted on 11/19/2023 5:19:22 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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