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Imagine there may be no help: conclusions of US Special Representative’s visit to Ukraine
Ukrainska Pravda ^
| November 16, 2023
Posted on 11/17/2023 12:09:47 PM PST by Kazan
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And, of course, military aid will be the first thing cut off and Ukraine will have no choice to surrender if that happens.
She was preparing the Ukrainians for inevitable.
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:09:47 PM PST
by
Kazan
To: Kazan
I see ‘pp’s’ name and it makes my blood run cold. WPOS!
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:12:52 PM PST
by
rktman
(Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
To: Kazan
Xi Jinping told Biden that Ukraine belongs to Putin.
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:14:52 PM PST
by
Thunder90
(All posts soley represent my own opinions)
To: Kazan
You know, the British Empire never referred to Nyasaland, Malaya, and Sierra Leone as “allies”.
Maybe we should learn from their example.
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:15:04 PM PST
by
Jim Noble
(The future belongs to those who show up)
To: Kazan
Imagine there may be no help: conclusions of US Special Representative’s visit to UkraineYep, I can Imagine That!
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:22:54 PM PST
by
Navy Patriot
(Celebrate Decivilization)
To: Kazan
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:23:36 PM PST
by
kiryandil
(China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
To: Kazan
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:25:31 PM PST
by
kiryandil
(China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
To: Thunder90
Xi Jinping told Biden that Ukraine belongs to Putin.I wonder if he told Biden, Taiwan belongs to him?
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:26:15 PM PST
by
Mark17
(Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
To: Jim Noble
You know, the British Empire never referred to Nyasaland, Malaya, and Sierra Leone as “allies”. The USA follows the Roman model, which before Julius Caesar, was also a Republic, thus keeping the facade of "ally" vs. conquered territory. Satellites within the empire were ruled by locals, closely tied to the Roman Government and its elites in finances, culture and military matters. Herod nominally ruled Judea and he could have John the Baptist killed, but it was the Roman Prefect who had to give the OK to have Jesus killed.
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:26:54 PM PST
by
PGR88
To: Navy Patriot; Kazan
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:27:43 PM PST
by
kiryandil
(China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
To: Kazan
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:32:46 PM PST
by
kiryandil
(China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
To: Mark17
I wonder if he told Biden, Taiwan belongs to him?No need.
That has been US policy since 1983, and by implication since 1972.
The US will not oppose Chinese reunification.
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:49:58 PM PST
by
Jim Noble
(The future belongs to those who show up)
To: Kazan
Ukraine is like some guy used to go to your school and you only knew him by name, if that.
30 years later he comes across hard times, shows up at your doorstep, and expects you to take him into your house.
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:54:00 PM PST
by
MNDude
To: Jim Noble
The US will not oppose Chinese reunification.That’s probably true. I wonder about Korean reunification?
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:55:45 PM PST
by
Mark17
(Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
To: Kazan
Did nato
Flush
The gay flags yet
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posted on
11/17/2023 12:58:10 PM PST
by
Firehath
(Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
To: Kazan
And.....my ‘Give a damn’ button breaks again.
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posted on
11/17/2023 1:22:07 PM PST
by
voicereason
(When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
To: Kazan
This is going to be a disaster for the Ukraine. They were led down the garden path to a ceaseless proxy war on Ukraine soil for the benefit of NATO given NATO assurances they would keep the support flowing
NATO and Biden lied and now the Ukraine is being brought to the brink of economic and military collapse as NATO and Biden default on their unfulfillable promises.
Soon Ukraine will be at the mercy of Russia after squandering all the support they have been given on worthless military actions
They should have used the supplied weapons to build an impregnable defense in depth and to conserve their troops and military assets to provide leverage for a negotiated settlement reached from a position of strength
Now they are out of everything and much of their soldiers are either dead or out of action with no possibility of replacement. They may soon collapse and Russia can over run them at their leisure.
This end game scenarios was plainly obvious in Feb this year at least
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posted on
11/17/2023 2:00:34 PM PST
by
rdcbn1
To: Kazan
Imagine....
Imagine that you have a condo in Fort Myers, the epicenter of hurricane Ian..
Imagine that you still have a destroyed home, a year after the hurricane hit.
Imagine the fed denying you funds.
Imagine money laundering human trafficking Ukraine getting your tax dollars, while you stay homeless.
Screw Ukraine.
Help Americans with American dollars first.
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posted on
11/17/2023 2:31:12 PM PST
by
joe fonebone
(And the people said NO! The End)
To: Navy Patriot
Me too. I didn’t lose a damn thing there.
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posted on
11/17/2023 2:33:06 PM PST
by
Gaffer
To: Mark17
Yes that too. And that Gaza belongs to Hamas
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posted on
11/17/2023 3:34:53 PM PST
by
Thunder90
(All posts soley represent my own opinions)
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