Remember how this "conservative" got her start, by working with the NAACP to shake down a CT H.S. for $38,000 after she falsely accused unnamed "white boys" of "racial harrassment." She is despicable.
Posted on 11/16/2023 10:14:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind
We all laughed as the Democrats looked like they were going to split their party in half over the Israeli-Palestinian war. It was almost farcical watching liberal leaders take a stance that at times looked to favor the Hamas terrorists. Nothing on that level is happening with Candace Owens and Ben Shapiro, yet it’s threatening to tear a fissure in our conservative movement heading into the 2024 election. We can’t afford the infighting.
As much as Shapiro brands himself as a man of “facts and logic,” he opened with a line of personal attack rather than countering her points, calling Owens “absolutely disgraceful” and stating that her points on the issues were “faux-sophistication,” attacking her rather than her arguments. Likewise, Owens has now entered the same arena, calling Shapiro “emotionally unhinged.”
None of this helps the conservative movement. Both Shapiro and Owens have been instrumental in reaching a younger crowd with their messaging and converting different demographics to the cause. Their fracturing only serves to hurt us at a time when we must be more united than ever.
Democrats have shown that they’re willing to do absurd things to maintain their authoritarian control. Don’t forget how Gov. Gavin Newsom even put in a rule to shut down churches in California during the COVID-19 pandemic or how the political prisoners of the peaceful protest of January 6 were treated worse than the real terrorists who were held in Guantanamo Bay when we were rooting out the leaders of the actual terrorist attack that took place on 9/11.
Candace Owens has been saying something different and much more nuanced, which Shapiro should appreciate in the spirit of freedom of speech. Unlike the nuts on the left, she’s not supporting Hamas.
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Shapiro has a voice fit for silent movies....
I've heard both side. It seems to me they are in agreement and just talking past each other or arguing over small details.
You are right its not helpful.
Disagree with the boss, and bad things happen.
Shapiro allows no disagreement with his country of Israel.
Owen’s is not pro hammi, but that doesn’t matter if you disagree with the boss.
I'm paraphrasing, but - that's what I heard her suggesting.
She had tweeted a Bible passage about "blessed are the peacemakers" that got Ben's hair on fire. Charlie Kirk also mentioned that Candice is "40 months pregnant" on his show just now, so maybe she is thinking long term - that we need peace, to ensure our children survive and prosper...........
From watching her, she came across as a bit defensive and overtalked during Kirk's questioning, but - bottom line is - I came away thinking this whole 'thing' about this Ben vs Candice sounds entirely overblown.
“ Ben Shapiro never, ever will question Israel, or discuss any nuance about it. He behaves almost like a paid agent.”
What do you think he needs to “question” about Israel?
40 months pregnant?
“ the charlatan conservative infotainment complex”
Good term.
The left always circles the wagons....we get in a circular firing squad.
In which circles? They’re the ones on colleges campuses engaging with young minds. They both are extremely effective and are widely known.
They hold a huge influence...
There's a MUCH wider debate about Israel Government policy in Israel, which is natural for any open democracy, than there is in the USA.
Israel itself seems to have a much wider and diverse range of media and public opinion than we ever get here on topic the topic of Israeli government policy and strategy.
True.
Remember how this "conservative" got her start, by working with the NAACP to shake down a CT H.S. for $38,000 after she falsely accused unnamed "white boys" of "racial harrassment." She is despicable.
If only Shapiro cared 1/10 as much about the US border as he does about the Israel/Gaza border.
“Nothing on that level is happening with Candace Owens and Ben Shapiro, yet it’s threatening to tear a fissure in our conservative movement ...”
No swing voter or persuadable voter knows who these people are, or cares why they are fighting.
Not much influence? Shapiro holds 6.54 million subscribers on YouTube alone. His average views on any video of his under 24 hours is in excess of 220k. Couple that with 1.1 million followers on Rumble and numerous other outlets.
Candace Owens holds 2.3 million subscribers on YouTube with half a million views on any of her videos in a one day period.
They hold a VERY LARGE influence. Just because you may not think so does not make it true.
He was joking with her.........
“ What do you think he needs to “question” about Israel?”
** There’s a MUCH wider debate about Israel Government policy in Israel, which is natural for any open democracy, than there is in the USA.**
That merits a wut?
Question remains, what do you think Shapiro needs to question (your words) about Israel.
I’m asking you about your assertion: “ Ben Shapiro never, ever will question Israel…”
There are numerous videos of Shapiro highlighting continual problems at our borders and is constantly slamming Biden on his lawlessness concerning the same. I don’t understand the gaslighting of our own conservatives. It’s a flat out lie to insinuate otherwise.
You’re literally citing an item that occurred 16 years ago? Really? She’s repeatedly stated she started as a liberal and woke up as a conservative as she grew. Your citing of this old of her alignment is a stretch. If that were the case then toss our beloved Trump to the side because over the years he donated “hugely” to liberal causes until he woke up.
Give me a break
My mistake.
If only Shapiro cared 1/2 as much about the US border as he does about the Israel/Gaza border.
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