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Why the pro-life movement seems to be losing
The Denison Forum ^ | 11/12/2023 | Ryan Denison

Posted on 11/12/2023 8:08:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind

With Tuesday’s election results in Ohio and Virginia seen as a referendum on the pro-life movement from pundits across the political spectrum—a point that was reiterated in Wednesday’s Republican debate—it’s understandable that many are feeling discouraged. After all, it took nearly fifty years to overturn Roe v. Wade but abortions have actually increased since that monumental decision.

Moreover, the expansion of abortion options has won in every state that has voted on the subject, a trend that is likely to continue across the coming years. Given that roughly 69 percent of Americans support at least some access to abortion during the first trimester, perhaps we should not be surprised. However, that support wanes quickly once you get beyond those first twelve weeks. As Dr. Jim Denison discussed earlier this week, a majority actually oppose abortion in the second (55 percent) and third (70 percent) stages of a pregnancy.

If that’s the case, though, why have so many of the new laws enshrined a right to abortion that far surpasses popular opinion? And, more importantly, what can we do to reverse that trend?

The answer is, at its core, quite simple. However, it does not appear to be one that many in the pro-life movement want to hear.

Why a national prohibition against abortion will never happen

When the issue of abortion was raised in Wednesday’s Republican primary debate, Nikki Haley remarked that to change federal law, “It’s going to take 60 Senate votes, the majority of the House, and a president to sign it. We haven’t had 60 Senate votes in over a hundred years. We might have 45 pro-life senators. No Republican president can ban abortions any more than a Democratic president can ban these [more restrictive] state laws.”

And she’s right.

I believe life begins at conception and would love for there to be a national prohibition against abortion. But it’s simply not going to happen, and there is no path to making it so anytime soon. But, as Haley noted, that goes for the pro-choice side as well.

This will remain an issue for individual states to decide, and that’s for the best. It may not feel like it as we watch state after state make it permissible to kill the unborn, often even when the child could survive outside the womb. But the truth is, we should want this issue to remain with the states because that’s the level of government where we can have the greater impact. After all, in a democracy your vote is worth more in elections where fewer votes are cast.

So how can we do that?

It starts by shifting our focus from politics to people.

Choose people over politics

Saying our focus should be on people rather than politics does not mean ignoring the latter. But it is much easier to change a single mind through conversation and dialogue than it is to change the politics of an entire party.

Moreover, there is good evidence that many of those who support abortion—particularly in the second and third trimesters—have either not given the details of that position a great deal of thought or do not understand all that it truly entails.

You see, during the first trimester, the methods most often utilized in an abortion are undoubtedly tragic, but they are not necessarily barbaric. However, that ceases to be the case once you get to the second trimester and beyond. (A word of warning: The rest of this section contains graphic descriptions of abortion procedures.)

As the fetus grows to the point that it is too large to simply suck out of the womb, the most common method of terminating the child’s life is called dilation and evacuation. After the mother is put under anesthesia, abortion providers go in with “suction and gynecological instruments” to empty the uterus.

Or at least that’s how it’s described by most clinics.

The truth is that those “gynecological instruments” are used to dismember the fetus in the womb, typically while the child is still alive, and then pull him or her out piece by piece. The “fragmented fetal parts” are then rearranged to make sure none were left behind.

Roughly 95 percent of second- and third-trimester abortions—which account for approximately 11 percent of all abortions—utilize this method. Moreover, “leading authorities” have concluded that it is typically not worth the added risk to the mother to kill the child prior to beginning the procedure.

Does a fetus feel pain?

Initially, this approach was justified by arguing that a fetus cannot feel pain until after twenty-four to twenty-five weeks of development, meaning that dismembering the child while it was still alive did not cause it to suffer. That is still the official position of many abortion providers.

However, more recent studies have shown that, at the very least, there is reason to doubt those conclusions. As Dr. Bridget Thill writes, “Current neuroscientific evidence indicates the possibility of fetal pain perception during the first trimester,” with indications that a child may be able to feel some form of pain after as little as seven to eight weeks in the womb. She goes on to conclude that “denial of fetal pain capacity beginning in the first trimester, potentially as early as 8–12 weeks gestation, is no longer tenable.”

And she is hardly alone in those conclusions.

Ultimately, the possibility exists that every fetus who is killed after fifteen weeks—and possibly long before that—feels the indescribable pain of his or her abortion.

I want to believe that most people who support the availability of such abortions do not fully comprehend all that their position entails. And I want to believe that, if they did, they would stand against such barbarism.

After all, if a slaughterhouse butchered cattle the way abortion clinics kill many of these babies, they would be shut down in a day. While people may have honest disagreements about the value and humanity of an unborn child, I would hope that we could agree that a fetus has at least as much inherent worth as a cow.

The pathway to true change

The good news is that every law that has been passed to protect abortion can be changed to protect children instead. But those laws aren’t going to change until we can change the minds of the people who voted to pass them.

So if we truly want to make a difference on this issue and save the lives of unborn children, we need to focus on telling people the truth about abortion in a way that doesn’t shy away from the hard realities of all that it entails, but which also shares that message with the grace and love of Christ.

And remember that, regardless of what the laws say, every expectant mother makes her own decision about whether to keep or kill her baby, and we don’t need politicians to make a positive impact in their lives.

So let’s start by actively trying to engage with people who see differently on this issue. A great deal of common ground currently lies fallow because both sides often seem more interested in demonizing the other than working together. And while I fully understand the hesitancy to give any ground when it comes to protecting unborn lives, let’s not sacrifice those we can save in the process.

Ultimately, if we really want to make a difference in the fight to save unborn lives, we have to start with people over politics and accept the reality that there is no quick fix on a national scale.



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To: Responsibility2nd
The Number 1 reason why pro-life positions are losing is that Republicans (NOT conservatives) are willing to compromise with the Democrats for political gain.

Agreed.

They have sold their souls and betrayed their constituency.

Yes, abortion is a hot button issue, but the narrative that abortion is about *choice* needs to be challenged far more than it has. Allowing the leftists to set the narrative that abortion is a *choice* and *reproductive health care* has more to do with it than anything.

We need to push back and emphasize the fact that it a barbaric slaughter of a human being as they are ripped limb from limb while still alive or chemically burned to death while still alive.

Or having their brains sucked out.

21 posted on 11/12/2023 9:16:26 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Renfrew
We will win, but it will take time.

You mean the Muslims? When they take over the West, they'll ban abortion.

22 posted on 11/12/2023 9:21:34 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: SeekAndFind

Because a majority of Americans believe there are exceptional cases where abortions should be allowed.

However, the pro-life movement is driven largely by a minority of purists who believe abortions should never be allowed under any circumstances.

The result is that pro-life activists push total bans, for which there is not sufficient popular support - and they lose.

Even though I am one of the purists who believes there should be no abortions at all, I urge like-minded pro-lifers to concede the exceptions, thereby winning majority support for abortion restrictions and saving millions of unborn babies.

By allowing the exceptions, which represent a small fraction of abortions, we can win the passage of restrictive abortion laws, and stop the vast majority of abortions - which happen not because of rape, incest or the life of the mother, but because the baby was simply not wanted.


23 posted on 11/12/2023 9:22:42 PM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Anti-Life movement is winning. Now if they’d just off themselves first...


24 posted on 11/12/2023 9:26:57 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought tat the inducement of labor that expels the baby out of the birth canal is the way it is done. Once the baby’s neck is in sight, the spinal chord in the neck is snipped causing death. The dead baby is pulled out and disposed.

Whatever way it is done, the Culture of Death shows their total indifference to the value of life for those of the living. In fact they are just as disgusting as those Hamas terrorist chopping off the heads of Israeli babies or putting them in ovens.


25 posted on 11/12/2023 9:28:23 PM PST by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Drew68

26 posted on 11/12/2023 9:37:58 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Drew68

“But Dobbs has been the greatest GOTV bonanza imaginable for the Democrats.”

Sometimes... the suspicious part of me thinks that is exactly why the court decided that way. To energize the females to crawl over broken glass to vote in more Democrats.


27 posted on 11/12/2023 9:43:30 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Drew68; jocon307

Show white people encouraging a black woman to abort her baby - that should provoke a reaction!


28 posted on 11/12/2023 9:58:28 PM PST by Mr Information
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To: SeekAndFind

It is losing. Reason why is that people are turning away churches and the leftist corruption of the education system is churning out women brainwashed with feminist government debt slaves.


29 posted on 11/12/2023 10:36:19 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: JimRed

I like the way you think. I’m going to keep an eye on you.


30 posted on 11/12/2023 11:04:21 PM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: bigbob
Because today, most people are pro-choice...

It's a child, not a choice. The choice was deciding to engage in the activity that created pregnancy, without taking available measures to prevent it.

31 posted on 11/12/2023 11:16:06 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
...Republicans (NOT conservatives) are willing to compromise with the Democrats for political gain.

They forget that compromising with bad policy is like adding sewage to your drinking water.

32 posted on 11/12/2023 11:20:25 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
...Republicans (NOT conservatives) are willing to compromise with the Democrats for political gain.

They forget that compromising with bad policy is like adding sewage to your drinking water.

33 posted on 11/12/2023 11:20:25 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the word “abortion” is a euphemism: it hides what is being done. I think most women would have no difficulty saying: “I want an abortion”, but few would say: “I want to kill my unborn baby”.

So people shouldn’t be asked, for example: “Do you approve of abortion up to 3 months?”, but rather: “Do you approve of killing an unborn baby up to 3 months?”.

Similarly, don’t refer to people as “pro-choice” but as “pro-death”, better “pro-killing”, and better still “pro-baby killing”.


34 posted on 11/12/2023 11:22:59 PM PST by Mr Information
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To: SeekAndFind

The reason the issue resonates on the left is that they were established as a party perfectly content with their livelihood created by the labors of a race they deemed as a disposable commodity.

So how long till it becomes a “state right” to murder both the unborn as well as the born? At what age does murder stop becoming acceptable? The simple fact is a right of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness should be guaranteed to those born and unborn.

Those who oppose this are an abomination to our form of government and should be treated as the ghoulish murderers they are. It is no longer acceptable to support a party that promotes or concedes the issue of murdering the unborn.


35 posted on 11/12/2023 11:24:48 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Mr Information; SeekAndFind
I think the word “abortion” is a euphemism: it hides what is being done. I think most women would have no difficulty saying: “I want an abortion”, but few would say: “I want to kill my unborn baby”.

Some might say "I want to end my pregnancy."

36 posted on 11/12/2023 11:30:34 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Right Brother; Drew68

He’s right, though.

While we had been successful in restricting 3rd trimester abortions, when we go for a total ban, all we do cause a Democrat win. As a result, abortion restrictions go away entirely.

Democrats LOVE absolutist anti-abortion people. We give them victories.


37 posted on 11/12/2023 11:43:06 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Our country has been killing ( aborting) our babies for 50 years!

Millions of unborn babies

We don’t own any high ground on this
The bloodguilt is on our nation.

Those citizens who peacefully tried to stand in the gap for the unborn……were arrested
Public opinion was turned away from us

God will not be mocked
I fully believe that our nation will be held accountable for every unborn life that has been snuffed out!


38 posted on 11/12/2023 11:47:21 PM PST by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: DesertRhino
Because being a whore or a dude avoiding responsibility is fun, until it’s not.

Abortion is also used when fetal testing comes back with indications the baby may have Down's syndrome or other birth defects.

With women having kids later in life, there are more Downs kids conceived, but most are aborted once the test results come back. Couples are unwilling to deal with kids with issues


39 posted on 11/12/2023 11:50:43 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I AM an absolutist antiabortion person……..
……although there has always been, and still is, the caveat ‘ for the life of the mother’


40 posted on 11/12/2023 11:51:48 PM PST by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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