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Can Russia Ever Learn To Live Without Its Imperial Ambitions?
WorldCrunch ^ | October 29, 2023 | Janusz Onyszkiewicz

Posted on 11/12/2023 4:21:24 AM PST by tlozo

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1 posted on 11/12/2023 4:21:24 AM PST by tlozo
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Like Golda Meir said, Russians bring nothing but misery.


2 posted on 11/12/2023 4:25:44 AM PST by yldstrk
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this is why Ukraine and Moldova must both be brought under the NATO umbrella

because Putin won’t stop attacking otherwise


3 posted on 11/12/2023 4:26:41 AM PST by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: yldstrk
Golda Meir is your inspiration? Seriously?

4 posted on 11/12/2023 4:31:04 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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You got a problem with that?


5 posted on 11/12/2023 4:36:42 AM PST by yldstrk
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Empires became empires because their economy is based on conquest and taxation. They take a territory and suck it dry and then they must take another territory and suck that dry. Rome went through the entire cycle, finally becoming so big it fell apart under its own weight. All taxes in the Russian federation are paid to Moscow and then reapportioned to the satellite states. As there is less and less money those states are getting fractious and wanting to break away so they can manage their own futures.

What broke the mold of empires and turned the world around was America’s strategic overwatch that enabled every country to act as though it had alone won WWII. For the first time anyone could go anywhere, buy rather than steal a commodity, take it home and metabolize it into a good that could be sold. No navy was necessary. But Russia became a Mafia state and had to continue operating like an empire of old. Politically, Russia can’t allow its former colony countries to succeed as part of the American overwatch because Russian citizens will look over and wonder why they are still poor and downtrodden. Therefore, Russia has to move in and take away any success from its former colonies and pay that stolen money to its constituents to keep down the fires of revolution. If the war had gone as planned, they’d have managed to keep Russia together for a bit longer. But they are on the downhill slope of empire. They can’t stop now because if they do, the Federation will tear itself apart.


6 posted on 11/12/2023 4:45:48 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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Russia has always behaved like schoolyard bully - beating up on or intimidating the weak to hide its own deep-seated insecurity and its inherent and insurmountable vacuousness.


7 posted on 11/12/2023 4:48:41 AM PST by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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It’s OK when The Swamp does it, though.


8 posted on 11/12/2023 4:57:52 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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Russians always had the idea of a paternalistic governent. Like children who want to be lead and taught by a father figure...i.e. the czar.

Maybe they never got over it


9 posted on 11/12/2023 5:14:20 AM PST by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah - but the Swamp sends flowers after they’ve done it.


10 posted on 11/12/2023 5:17:48 AM PST by Palio di Siena (P01135809)
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To: tlozo

Every country that can see the opening wants imperial ambitions. And that includes the United States. We have approximately 750 military bases overseas. That seems kinda imperialistic to me.

Of course it can be argued that those bases are there for the common good. Pretty much the same thing Imperial Britain said way back when.


11 posted on 11/12/2023 5:22:18 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Simple answer, no

Muskovy is still in essence a central Asian culture, bequeathed on the Slaves by the Mongol invasion in the 11thu century, which didn't end until about 1480. Do not try to think of them as an enlightened European nation. Best exposition of their mindset is here, from a Finnish intelligence colonel, circa 2018.

https://ricochet.com/1214468/finnish-intelligence-officer-explains-the-russian-mindset/

12 posted on 11/12/2023 5:27:27 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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OTD in 2021


13 posted on 11/12/2023 5:39:47 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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excellent comments on this thread

putin is an evil man. he is not Christian in any real sense. he is a murderer and a monster


14 posted on 11/12/2023 5:42:41 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: Apparatchik
Russia has always behaved like schoolyard bully - beating up on or intimidating the weak to hide its own deep-seated insecurity and its inherent and insurmountable vacuousness.

Obviously, this description could never be applied to the United States of America.

The US of A never beats up weaker nations, and we clearly are a display of ethics and morality to the rest of the world.

15 posted on 11/12/2023 5:49:35 AM PST by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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The US of A never beats up weaker nations, and we clearly are a display of ethics and morality to the rest of the world.

Which is reflected by the tremendous number of new recruits for the all volunteer military. Thru the roof.

16 posted on 11/12/2023 5:51:30 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Captain Walker
The US of A never beats up weaker nations

List the nations we have "beat up" and annexed after WW2. Article is "Can Russia Ever Learn To Live Without Its Imperial Ambitions?"

17 posted on 11/12/2023 6:03:50 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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Spare me your false moral equivalence arguments. That tired trope died out when the Soviet Union and the American Communist movement imploded in the 1990s. It was a ploy used by the Far Left and has no place here on FR.


18 posted on 11/12/2023 6:11:44 AM PST by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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It isn’t Russia that’s spreading LGBT, Marxism, abortion, environmental extremism, and disruptive mass migration throughout the globe. NATO, the woke Pope, Soros, and the EU are the bigger threats by far.


19 posted on 11/12/2023 6:14:57 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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List the nations we have "beat up" and annexed after WW2. Article is "Can Russia Ever Learn To Live Without Its Imperial Ambitions?"

So now it's "annexed"; your shifting of the goal posts is noted. (But I won't bring up Hawaii, because that was early in the 20th century.)

Just look at our hyper-aggressive policy in the Middle East for the past 30 or so years, and tell me we aren't beating up weaker nations.

We're currently in Syria on our own invitation (because, "'Murica!", or some other similar drivel that seems to propel our use of military force) and our CIA supported the coup in Ukraine that started the conflict between that country and Russia.

20 posted on 11/12/2023 6:15:28 AM PST by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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