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Vatican takes 'step' towards transgender Catholics
France 24 ^ | 11.11.2023 | France 24

Posted on 11/11/2023 9:54:44 AM PST by Dr. Marten

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To: Dr. Marten

Homos should confess and repent.

So should the “pope” who usurped Benedict XVI.


21 posted on 11/11/2023 10:24:47 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: pepsi_junkie

Good one!


22 posted on 11/11/2023 10:31:36 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Probably refers to first century Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple.

Remember, Christ said “This generation shall not pass.”

Also, Israel had been unfaithful yet again in rejecting God’.s Messiah.So while there may be reference to future destruction, it certainly does not ferer tot he destruction of Christ’s Church.

Jesus picked twelve Apostles, 11 of whom abandoned him the night he was betrayed by the twelfth. Jesus didn’t destroy his Church over that, and he’s not going to destroy it because it is currently run be blasphemers and Heretics.

He has a better idea....


23 posted on 11/11/2023 10:48:22 AM PST by moonhawk (Unleash the MAGAhideen!)
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To: usurper
A pope can be removed by the Curia under Article 332 of Canon Law. There is a procedure to be followed.

A Church Council can fire a pope, but only a pope can call a Church Council, so that path is closed.

Bergoglio's pronouncements on ecology are ridiculous, but his public statements on the economy and migrants are straight out of Catholic social teaching, which is centuries old.

He is also doing what the College of Cardinals hired him to do, which is to modernize. The Polish and German popes did their best to turn back the clock to before the Second Vatican Council, cloaking their intent in "hermeneutics" and "reform of the reform," but all it did was cause more Catholics to flee.

A ways back, the bishop of Trenton (NJ) stated publicly that over the past 65 years, some 78% of Catholics had left the church. The Vatican immediately silenced him, not because his number was wrong, but because it was accurate.

So where did this 78% go?

  1. The largest percentage because Christmas and Easter Catholics. Some like to call them Catholics in Name Only. They go to church twice a year and don't particularly care what their local pastor, bishop or the pope have to say.
  2. The second largest group become atheists and agnostics. There is something about Catholicism that biases them against all religions.
  3. The third largest group joined the mainstream Protestants, particularly the Lutherans and Episcopalians. These two faiths are very like Catholicism but without the baggage.
  4. The smallest group required a sense of surety and joined various Bible-based evangelical churches.

Bergoglio's goal is to induce Category #1 and #3 to return to Catholicism. Category #2 and #4 are forever lost.

The German pope publicly stated he didn't care about those who had left and wanted a smaller, purer church. He also told those unhappy with his papacy to find another church. The Curia told him to shut up because his statements were bad for business.

Toward that end Bergoglio is trying to reconcile Rome with a world that has changed and is probably not changing back. He couldn't do this while the German pope was alive, but with Ratzinger safely in his grave, the gloves have come off.

So what about the 22% (100 - 78) that remained in the church?

The Traditionalists have nowhere else to go, so Bergoglio doesn't waste his time with them. His pronouncements, however offensive to some, are his way of expanding his base.

24 posted on 11/11/2023 11:00:42 AM PST by Publius
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To: Dr. Marten

is there a system in place to remove a pope?


25 posted on 11/11/2023 11:02:58 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: bobbo666

They are both quantum leaps away from faith towards evil. Neither is dominate over the other, for the trans movement & the pedophile movement both concern subverting the children.


26 posted on 11/11/2023 11:47:51 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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Thank you for referencing that article Dr. Marten.

"In a document published on Wednesday, the powerful Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, one of the main departments that manages the affairs of the Holy See, said transgender believers can be baptised if it would not cause scandal or confusion [??? emphasis added]."


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Papal politically correct approval of baptizing transgender "believers" is causing scandal and confusion.

Apostle Paul warned Christians about following blind guides in Romans 1:21-32, especially verse 32 imo.

Jeremiah 23:1 warns about pastors who scatter the sheep.

27 posted on 11/11/2023 11:59:36 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Publius
He is also doing what the College of Cardinals hired him to do, which is to modernize.

If this is modernization then end of the church is near. For over 2,000 years the church has maintained Christian teaching. Through countless and constant world changes the church was the anchor.

Now it seems this generation sees themselves as more 'enlightened' than all those who came before and are eager to tear down what they never created or understood.

Its not just the Catholic Church, media, academics and politics have all been infected with this narcissistic poison.

All these idiots think the world started when they were born because they are the new enlightened few who see the truth.

Easy pickings for satin. As satin said in the movie 'Devils Advocate' "Vanity its my favorite sin".

28 posted on 11/11/2023 12:33:38 PM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: Dr. Marten

Did Frankie wipe his chin off before making his announcement?


29 posted on 11/11/2023 12:37:39 PM PST by MortMan (I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.)
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To: Dr. Marten

Next up: Tranny priests (or priestesses) ???


30 posted on 11/11/2023 12:54:29 PM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Publius
Toward that end Bergoglio is trying to reconcile Rome with a world that has changed and is probably not changing back. He couldn't do this while the German pope was alive, but with Ratzinger safely in his grave, the gloves have come off.

Only 25% of global Catholics and 10% of American Catholics are Traditionalists who believe in large families, the Latin mass and strict loyalty to doctrine. The Traditionalists have nowhere else to go, so Bergoglio doesn't waste his time with them. His pronouncements, however offensive to some, are his way of expanding his base.

No offense, but this sounds like drivel from the marketing department of a consumer products company that has seen an 80% decline in its sales over the last 40 years.

Can you name one religious denomination that has successfully “expanded its base” by watering itself down to accommodate destructive modern cultural trends? Just look at the collapse of mainline Protestant churches all over this country to see where that leads. Catering to the unbridled tastes of humanity turns your religion into nothing more than a fad … and fads don’t last very long in the context of human history.

31 posted on 11/11/2023 1:00:51 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Dr. Marten
Transgenders have SPIT in GOD'S FACE saying..."YOU MADE ME WRONG"!!

The POPE IS A HERETIC!

32 posted on 11/11/2023 4:10:19 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Dr. Marten

From the Washington Post:

“Strickland is among the most strident high-profile U.S. Catholic clergy who have for years opposed Francis, saying that the pope’s theology violates their faith and that his apparent openness on social issues is an existential danger to Catholicism.”


33 posted on 11/12/2023 7:24:35 AM PST by Texas resident (Biden=Obama=Jarrett=Soros)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

My greatest fear is that Francis will “out” the hierarchy in a way to neutralize R
Leviticus and Romans.

What’s happening now isn’t new - not by any means.


34 posted on 11/12/2023 1:45:52 PM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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To: Alberta's Child

Exactly.


35 posted on 11/14/2023 2:41:44 PM PST by nicollo ("This is FR!")
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